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=== Prime harmonics ===
=== Prime harmonics ===
{{Primes in edo|65|columns=15}}
{{Harmonics in equal|65|intervals=prime|columns=15}}


== Intervals ==
== Intervals ==
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3"
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3"
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! #
! [[Cent]]s
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! Approximate Ratios *
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== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==
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{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6"
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! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list|Comma List]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢)
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve Stretch (¢)
! colspan="2" | Tuning error
! colspan="2" | Tuning Error
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! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢)
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢)
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{| class="wikitable center-all left-5"
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|+Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
! Periods<br>per octave
! Periods<br>per 8ve
! Generator<br>(reduced)
! Generator<br>(Reduced)
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! Cents<br>(Reduced)
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! Associated<br>Ratio
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* [[Photia12]]


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Revision as of 08:05, 6 January 2023

← 64edo 65edo 66edo →
Prime factorization 5 × 13
Step size 18.4615 ¢ 
Fifth 38\65 (701.538 ¢)
Semitones (A1:m2) 6:5 (110.8 ¢ : 92.31 ¢)
Consistency limit 5
Distinct consistency limit 5

The 65 equal divisions of the octave (65edo), or 65(-tone) equal temperament (65tet, 65et) when viewed from a regular temperament perspective, divides the octave into 65 equal parts of about 18.5 cents each.

Theory

65et can be characterized as the temperament which tempers out the schisma, 32805/32768, the sensipent comma, 78732/78125, and the würschmidt comma. In the 7-limit, there are two different maps; the first is 65 103 151 182], tempering out 126/125, 245/243 and 686/675, so that it supports sensi temperament, and the second is 65 103 151 183] (65d), tempering out 225/224, 3125/3087, 4000/3969 and 5120/5103, so that it supports garibaldi temperament. In both cases, the tuning privileges the 5-limit over the 7-limit, as the 5-limit of 65 is quite accurate. The same can be said for the two different versions of 7-limit würschmidt temperament (wurschmidt and worschmidt) these two mappings provide.

65edo approximates the intervals 3/2, 5/4, 11/8, 19/16, 23/16, 31/16 and 47/32 well, so that it does a good job representing the 2.3.5.11.19.23.31.47 just intonation subgroup. To this one may want to add 17/16, 29/16 and 43/32, giving the 47-limit no-7's no-13's no-37's no-41's subgroup 2.3.5.11.17.19.23.29.31.43.47. In this sense it is a tuning of schismic/Nestoria that focuses on the very primes that 53edo neglects (which instead elegantly connects primes 7, 13, 37 and 41 to nestoria). Also of interest is the 19-limit 2*65 subgroup 2.3.5.49.11.91.119.19, on which 65 has the same tuning and commas as the zeta edo 130edo.

65edo contains 13edo as a subset. The offset between a just perfect fifth at 702 cents and the 13edo superfifth at 738.5 cents, is approximately 2 degrees of 65edo. Therefore, an instrument fretted to 13edo, with open strings tuned to 3-limit intervals such as 4/3, 3/2, 9/8, 16/9 etc, will approximate a subset of 65edo. For an example of this, see Rubble: a Xenuke Unfolded.

Prime harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 65edo
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31 37 41 43 47
Error Absolute (¢) +0.00 -0.42 +1.38 -8.83 +2.53 +8.70 +5.81 -2.13 -0.58 +4.27 -0.42 +7.12 -4.45 +5.41 -0.89
Relative (%) +0.0 -2.3 +7.5 -47.8 +13.7 +47.1 +31.5 -11.5 -3.2 +23.1 -2.3 +38.6 -24.1 +29.3 -4.8
Steps
(reduced)
65
(0)
103
(38)
151
(21)
182
(52)
225
(30)
241
(46)
266
(6)
276
(16)
294
(34)
316
(56)
322
(62)
339
(14)
348
(23)
353
(28)
361
(36)

Intervals

# Cents Approximate Ratios * Ups and Downs Notation
0 0.00 1/1 P1 D
1 18.46 81/80, 100/99, 121/120, 88/87, 93/92, 94/93, 95/94, 96/95, 115/114, 116/115, 125/124 ^1 ^D
2 36.92 128/125, 45/44, 46/45, 47/46, 48/47, 55/54 ^^1 ^^D
3 55.38 33/32, 34/33, 30/29, 32/31, 31/30 vvm2 vvEb
4 73.85 25/24, 24/23, 23/22, 47/45 vm2 vEb
5 92.31 135/128, 256/243, 18/17, 19/18, 20/19, 58/55 m2 Eb
6 110.77 16/15, 17/16, 33/31 A1/^m2 D#/^Eb
7 129.23 27/25, 14/13, 55/51 v~2 ^^Eb
8 147.69 12/11, 25/23 ~2 vvvE
9 166.15 11/10, 32/29 ^~2 vvE
10 184.62 10/9 vM2 vE
11 203.08 9/8, 19/17, 64/57 M2 E
12 221.54 25/22, 17/15, 33/29, 58/51 ^M2 ^E
13 240.00 55/48, 38/33, 23/20, 31/27, 54/47 ^^M2 ^^E
14 258.46 64/55, 22/19, 29/25, 36/31 vvm3 vvF
15 276.92 75/64, 20/17, 27/23, 34/29 vm3 vF
16 295.38 32/27, 19/16 m3 F
17 313.85 6/5, 55/46 ^m3 ^F
18 332.31 40/33, 17/14, 23/19 v~3 ^^F
19 350.77 11/9, 27/22, 38/31 ~3 ^^^F
20 369.23 26/21, 68/55, 47/38 ^~3 vvF#
21 387.69 5/4, 64/51 vM3 vF#
22 406.15 81/64, 24/19, 19/15, 34/27, 29/23 M3 F#
23 424.62 32/25, 23/18 ^M3 ^F#
24 443.08 128/99, 22/17, 31/24, 40/31 ^^M3 ^^F#
25 461.54 72/55, 30/23, 47/36 vv4 vvG
26 480.00 33/25, 29/22, 62/47 v4 vG
27 498.46 4/3 P4 G
28 516.92 27/20, 23/17, 31/23 ^4 ^G
29 535.38 15/11, 34/25, 64/47 v~4 ^^G
30 553.85 11/8, 40/29, 62/45 ~4 ^^^G
31 572.31 25/18, 32/23 ^~4/vd5 vvG#/vAb
32 590.77 45/32, 24/17, 38/27, 31/22 vA4/d5 vG#/Ab
33 609.23 64/45, 17/12, 27/19, 44/31 A4/^d5 G#/^Ab
34 627.69 36/25, 23/16 ^A4/v~5 ^G#/^^Ab
35 646.15 16/11, 29/20, 45/31 ~5 vvvA
36 664.62 22/15, 25/17, 47/32 ^~5 vvA
37 683.08 40/27, 23/17, 31/23 v5 vA
38 701.54 3/2 P5 A
39 720.00 50/33, 44/29, 47/31 ^5 ^A
40 738.46 55/36, 23/15, 72/47 ^^5 ^^A
41 756.92 99/64, 17/11, 48/31, 31/20 vvm6 vvBb
42 775.38 25/16, 36/23 vm6 vBb
43 793.85 128/81, 19/12, 30/19, 27/17, 46/29 m6 Bb
44 812.31 8/5, 51/32 ^m6 ^Bb
45 830.77 21/13, 55/34, 76/47 v~6 ^^Bb
46 849.23 18/11, 44/27, 31/19 ~6 vvvB
47 867.69 33/20, 28/17, 38/23 ^~6 vvB
48 886.15 5/3, 92/55 vM6 vB
49 904.62 27/16, 32/19 M6 B
50 923.08 128/75, 17/10, 46/27, 29/17 ^M6 ^B
51 941.54 55/32, 19/11, 50/29, 31/18 ^^M6 ^^B
52 960.00 96/55, 33/19, 40/23, 54/31, 47/27 vvm7 vvC
53 978.46 44/25, 30/17, 58/33, 51/29 vm7 vC
54 996.92 16/9, 34/19 m7 C
55 1015.38 9/5 ^m7 ^C
56 1033.85 20/11, 29/16 v~7 ^^C
57 1052.31 11/6, 46/25 ~7 ^^^C
58 1070.77 50/27, 13/7, 102/55 ^~7 vvC#
59 1089.23 15/8, 32/17, 62/33 vM7 vC#
60 1107.69 243/128, 256/135, 17/9, 36/19, 19/10, 55/29 M7 C#
61 1126.15 48/25, 23/12, 44/23, 90/47 ^M7 ^C#
62 1144.62 64/33, 33/17, 29/15, 31/16, 60/31 ^^M7 ^^C#
63 1163.08 125/64, 88/45, 45/23, 47/24, 92/47, 108/55 vv8 vvD
64 1181.54 160/81, 99/50, 240/121, 87/55, 184/93, 93/47, 188/95, 95/48, 228/115, 115/58, 248/125 v8 vD
65 1200.00 2/1 P8 D

* based on treating 65edo as a 2.3.5.11.13/7.17.19.23.29.31.47 subgroup temperament.

Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma List Mapping Optimal
8ve Stretch (¢)
Tuning Error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3 [-103 65 [65 103]] +0.131 0.131 0.71
2.3.5 32805/32768, 78732/78125 [65 103 151]] -0.110 0.358 1.94
2.3.5.11 243/242, 4000/3993, 5632/5625 [65 103 151 225]] -0.266 0.410 2.22

Rank-2 temperaments

Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
Periods
per 8ve
Generator
(Reduced)
Cents
(Reduced)
Associated
Ratio
Temperaments
1 3\65 55.38 33/32 Escapade
1 9\65 166.15 11/10 Squirrel etc.
1 12\65 221.54 25/22 Hemisensi
1 19\65 350.77 11/9 Karadeniz
1 21\65 387.69 5/4 Würschmidt
1 24\65 443.08 162/125 Sensipent
1 27\65 498.46 4/3 Helmholtz / photia
1 28\65 516.92 27/20 Gravity
5 20\65
(6\65)
369.23
(110.77)
10125/8192
(16/15)
Qintosec
5 27\65
(1\65)
498.46
(18.46)
4/3
(81/80)
Pental
5 30\65
(4\65)
553.85
(73.85)
11/8
(25/24)
Trisedodge / countdown

Scales