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{{Infobox Interval | {{Infobox Interval | ||
| Name = large undecimal neutral second, undecimal submajor second | |||
| Name = large undecimal neutral second, | |||
| Color name = 1og2, logu 2nd | | Color name = 1og2, logu 2nd | ||
| Sound = jid_11_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3 | | Sound = jid_11_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3 | ||
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'''11/10''', the '''large undecimal neutral second''' or '''undecimal submajor second''', is the simplest submajor second. It is 15 cents sharp of [[12/11]] and 17 cents flat of [[10/9]]. When tuned [[just]] or near-just, it not only has the very exotic melodic role of being almost exactly a third of [[4/3]], leading to [[4000/3993]] being [[Fudging|fudged]], but is also very close in size to a stack consisting of an [[apotome]] and [[33/32]], leading to the [[schisma]] being fudged. Keeping 11/10 distinct from 12/11 ensures that 11/10 bridges [[quartertone]]-based chords with more typical [[5-limit]] and [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] chords as a step between notes. | |||
'''11/10''', the '''large undecimal neutral second''' or '''undecimal submajor second''', is an | |||
11/10 is the [[octave-reduced]] form of [[11/5]], one of the three most [[concordant]] 11-limit intervals within the entire [[4/1|first two octaves]] along with [[11/4]] and [[11/3]]. | |||
== Approximation == | |||
11/10 is approximated extremely precisely by [[80edo]] and its multiples, with a chain of 80 11/10's failing to close at the octave by a mere third of a [[cent]], close enough that you could theoretically tune an instrument to 80edo by ear using it if you had the patience. 11/10 is also approximated within 2 cents by [[22edo]], and is 4c sharp of an octave-reduced stack of 9 generators in [[BPS]]. | |||
{{Interval edo approximation|11/10}} | |||
== Temperaments == | |||
Using 11/10 as a generator tempering out 4000/3993 (as previously mentioned) leads to scales that look like [[porcupine]] but whose harmonies can more accurately be explained. A half-octave period is exceptionally natural when 11/10 is a generator, because by virtue of making the (extremely accurate) approximation of the half-octave by [[99/70]], [[9/7]] is found as the period-complement of the generator. Taking this approach, this gives us temperaments in the [[stearnsmic clan]] such as [[pogo]], [[supers]], or [[echidna]], all of which detemper [[100/99]] ~ [[121/120]] and accurately find [[11-limit]] and (no-13's) [[17-limit]] harmonies. Of these, echidna's mapping of the no-13's 17-limit is the simplest, though all three have the same mapping of the 2.3.7.11/10.17 subgroup so that they only differ on the mapping of 5 and 11. The complexity of 5 and 11 in pogo are used to increase accuracy, being a weak schismic extension. That leaves supers as the odd one out; if you are using an edo tuning for it, 58edo supports echidna while 94edo supports pogo, so it seems to exist as a portable alternate way of finding primes 5 and 11 across systems, unless you use the 152edo tuning, which requires using the second-best mapping of 13 (the 152f [[val]]). | |||
Using sqrt(11/10) (22/21[[~]]21/20) as a generator leads to the low-complexity [[Nautilus]] with one period to the octave, and if you use two periods to the octave with this generator you get the high-accuracy temperament [[Harry]]; using cbrt(11/10) as a generator leads to [[Escapade]] with one period to the octave. | |||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* [[List of superparticular intervals]] | * [[List of superparticular intervals]] | ||
[[Category:Second]] | [[Category:Second]] | ||
[[Category:Neutral second]] | [[Category:Neutral second]] | ||
[[Category:Submajor second]] | [[Category:Submajor second]] | ||
[[Category:Over-5]] | [[Category:Over-5 intervals]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Equable heptatonic]] | ||