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Hi all!
I have a - what seems like a fairly simple - question which I am unable to answer.
How would you categorize the following subset of the harmonic series as a tuning


5:7:8:10:11:12


5:7:8:10:11:12
Some observations
- its pentatonic
- its period is 12/5 (its a non-octave tuning)
- its a subset of the harmonic series
- its arithmetic
- its non-equal, the (arithmetic) step sizes are 2/5, 1/5, 2/5, 1/5, 1/5
- every interval is unique (in cents: 528, 231, 386, 165, 150)
- its not harmonotonic
- its not a over-n scale: period is not the octave, therefore, its not a AFDO (arithmetic frequency division of octave) either
- its not a OS (otonal sequence): OS has one step size (interval p) and does not care about the end of the sequence/the period, rather, it's approach is 'take the first n in the sequence'
I could do 2-OS2/5 but that would generate 5:7:9:11:13:...
- its not a OD (otonal division), but could be viewed as one specific scale/subset of 7-OD12/5 [5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12]


- is pentatonic
Is it a generator sequence? Every interval is unique, therefore it has as many generators as it does intervals (5) - does calling it a quinary GS even make sense here?
- period is 12/5
I feel like with every interval being present only once it somehow defeats the 'generator' aspect of GS.
- is arithmetic
- is non-equal, (arithmetic) step sizes: 2/5, 1/5, 2/5, 1/5, 1/5
- is still harmonotonic though? by nature of being a subset of the harmonic series
=> is actually not harmonotonic


What do you think?


in my own semantics, I'd refer to it by 5->12[2,1,2,1,1] (from including overtone 5 to including overtone 12
in MTS-ESP Master I'd use the same semantics


!! comparisons irrelevant because not harmonotonic !!
.scl file
in comparison to OS
OS has one step size (interval p) and does not care about the end of the sequence/ the period, rather, it's approach is 'take the first n in the sequence'
I could do 2-OS2/5 but that would generate 5:7:9


in comparison to OD
! 5_7_8_10_11_12.scl
could be one specific scale/subset of 6-OD5/4 [5:6:7:8:9:10:11]
!
Otonal pentatonic 5:7:8:10:11:12
!
5
!
7/5
8/5
10/5
11/5
12/5

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[DRAFT] Non-octave / generalized (?) overtone scale
TODO: research if a generalized form like this already exists

COS - constrained otonal sequence<br>

in comparison to<br>

OS: COS is constrained, OS is open ended,


Non-octave overtone scales are an approach to describe overtone scales without the need of the octave as the period.
Therefore, they are non-octave-repeating scales based on a generating sequence which itself is a subset of the harmonic series.
They can also be viewed as a form of generator sequence.

Non-octave overtone scales are described by the form n...p:s

where

n ... root to which the following integers in the scale are relative to
p ... the period of the scale
s ... the step size, how many of the integers in the scale are skipped

n...p describes the integer sequence from including n to including p, for example, 4...7 gives: [4, 5, 6, 7]

for example, the scale 4...9:1 describes this 5-tone scale
4/4 - 5/4 - 6/4 - 7/4 - 8/4 - 9/4
the :1 indicates that every integer in the sequence is visited (step size of 1)

Contrast this to 4...9:2 which generates the following 3-tone scale
4/4 - 6/4 - 8/4 - 9/4
note that the :2 indicates that every other integer in the sequence from n ... p is visited (step size of 2)

Contrast this to 4...9:3 which generates the following 2-tone scale
4/4 - 7/4 - 9/4

etc.


Hi all! I have a - what seems like a fairly simple - question which I am unable to answer. How would you categorize the following subset of the harmonic series as a tuning

5:7:8:10:11:12

Some observations - its pentatonic - its period is 12/5 (its a non-octave tuning) - its a subset of the harmonic series - its arithmetic - its non-equal, the (arithmetic) step sizes are 2/5, 1/5, 2/5, 1/5, 1/5 - every interval is unique (in cents: 528, 231, 386, 165, 150) - its not harmonotonic - its not a over-n scale: period is not the octave, therefore, its not a AFDO (arithmetic frequency division of octave) either - its not a OS (otonal sequence): OS has one step size (interval p) and does not care about the end of the sequence/the period, rather, it's approach is 'take the first n in the sequence' I could do 2-OS2/5 but that would generate 5:7:9:11:13:... - its not a OD (otonal division), but could be viewed as one specific scale/subset of 7-OD12/5 [5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12]

Is it a generator sequence? Every interval is unique, therefore it has as many generators as it does intervals (5) - does calling it a quinary GS even make sense here? I feel like with every interval being present only once it somehow defeats the 'generator' aspect of GS.

What do you think?


.scl file

! 5_7_8_10_11_12.scl ! Otonal pentatonic 5:7:8:10:11:12 ! 5 ! 7/5 8/5 10/5 11/5 12/5