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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
10edo | 10edo contains all the intervals of [[5edo]], but also adds another copy of it separated by 120 [[cent]]s. The new intervals have sizes of 120{{c}}, 360{{c}}, 600{{c}}, 840{{c}}, and 1080{{c}}. The 120{{c}} interval can be treated a small neutral second or large minor 2nd, and its inversion a large neutral seventh or small major 7th, with the 120{{c}} and 1080{{c}} intervals being close (about 0.6{{c}} off) to [[15/14]] and [[28/15]] respectively. The 360{{c}} interval is a large neutral third, being about 0.5{{c}} sharp of [[16/13]], with its inversion being equally close to [[13/8]]. Finally, the 600{{c}} interval is the tritone that appears in every even-numbered edo, including [[12edo]]. | ||
Taking the the 360{{c}} large neutral third as a [[generator]] produces a heptatonic [[MOS | Taking the the 360{{c}} large neutral third as a [[generator]] produces a heptatonic [[MOS scale|moment of symmetry scale]] with step sizes {{nowrap|2 1 1 2 1 2 1}} (pattern [[3L 4s]], or "mosh"), which is the most [[Diatonic scale|diatonic]]-like scale in 10edo excluding the 5edo [[collapsed]] diatonic scale, and can be seen as a [[neutralized]] diatonic scale. | ||
It shares [[5edo]]'s approximation quality in the [[2.3.7 subgroup]], though the detuned fifth could be seen as a bigger problem with the more fine division of steps. Compared to 5edo, 10edo attains more accuracy in the full [[7-limit]], by including a better approximation of [[5/4]] at 360{{c}}, resulting in the better tuning of various intervals including 5, such as [[16/15]] and [[7/5]]. However, the approximation to 5/4 is still over 25{{c}} flat, and this interval is also equated with [[6/5]] (which is even more inaccurate, at 44{{c}} sharp), tempering out [[25/24]] and resulting in the [[dicot]] exotemperament. Thus, if one wishes to represent JI with 10edo, it is best to use prime [[5/1|5]] carefully or not at all. | |||
Even if 10edo isn't directly used to represent JI, it could still serve as a structural archetype for the 7-limit. The fact that 25/24 is tempered out means that the 5-limit major triad [[4:5:6]] and minor triad [[10:12:15|1/(6:5:4)]] are mapped to the same number of scale steps in the 10-form, a feature shared with [[7edo]] and the [[heptatonic]] system used in western music. 10edo additionally sends [[49/48]] to the unison, meaning the 7-limit triad [[4:6:7]] and its inverse [[14:21:24|1/(12:8:7)]] are the same number of scale steps in a decatonic system as well, and therefore also the [[4:5:6:7]] major and [[70:84:105:120|1/(12:10:8:7)]] minor tetrads as well. Tempering out 25/24 and 49/48 leads to the [[decimal]] exotemperament (which is named after 10edo). A more accurate temperament based off of the 10-form that doesn't temper out 25/24 or 49/48 is [[pajara]], which shares many desireable properties with diatonic<ref>Erlich, Paul. "Tuning, Tonality and 22-Tone Temperament." Xenharmonicon 17, 1998. [http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/paperspdf/Erlich-22.pdf http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/paperspdf/Erlich-22.pdf]</ref>. | |||
Since the neutral third is very close to 16/13, 10edo is usable as a 2.3.5.7.13 temperament, which includes 5edo's representation of 2.3.7; however, it is not without high damage. For one, all of [[9/7]], [[13/10]], [[21/16]], and [[4/3]] are equated to a flat fourth (or an extremely sharp supermajor third), tempering out [[28/27]], [[40/39]], [[49/48]], [[64/63]], [[91/90]], and [[105/104]]. Also, 5-limit major and minor thirds are equated as mentioned before (tempering out 25/24), and the third is also equated to 16/13, tempering out 40/39 and [[65/64]]. Additionally, 5-limit augmented and diminished intervals are equated with nearby septimal intervals (tempering out [[225/224]]), and since 3/2 is tuned sharp and 5/4 is tuned flat, the syntonic comma is exaggerated to a full step, or 120{{c}}. More accurately, it can be seen as a 2.7.13.15 temperament, restricting the 3.5 subgroup to powers of 15. | |||
By treating 360{{c}} as 11/9, we arrive at 11/8 = 600{{c}} (tempering out [[144/143]] and [[243/242]]), which allows 10edo to be treated as a full [[13-limit]] temperament. However, it is more accurate as a no-11 system. | |||
10edo is a [[zeta peak edo]], due to its relatively decent tunings of the harmonics 2, 3, 5, 7, 13, and 17. 10edo is also the smallest edo that maintains [[minimal consistent EDOs|25% or lower relative error]] on all of the first eight harmonics of the [[harmonic series]]. | |||
Thanks to its sevenths, 10edo is an ideal tuning for its size for [[metallic harmony]]. | Thanks to its sevenths, 10edo is an ideal tuning for its size for [[metallic harmony]]. | ||
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== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
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[[Enharmonic unison]]: d2 | [[Enharmonic unison]]: d2 | ||
See below: 3L 4s | See below: 3L 4s mosh notation | ||
=== 3L 4s (mosh) notation === | === 3L 4s (mosh) notation === | ||
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{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 center-3 mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 center-3 mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | ||
! | ! # | ||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! Note | ! Note | ||
! Name | ! Name | ||
! Associated | ! Associated ratios | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
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=== Sagittal notation === | === Sagittal notation === | ||
This notation is a subset of the notations for | This notation is a subset of the notations for edos [[20edo #Sagittal notation|20]] and [[30edo #Sagittal notation|30]] and a superset of the notation for [[5edo #Sagittal notation|5edo]]. | ||
==== Evo and Revo flavors ==== | ==== Evo and Revo flavors ==== | ||
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</imagemap> | </imagemap> | ||
Because it contains no Sagittal symbols, this Evo-SZ Sagittal notation is | Because it contains no Sagittal symbols, this Evo-SZ Sagittal notation is identical to Stein–Zimmerman notation. | ||
== Approximation to JI == | == Approximation to JI == | ||
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==== Selected 13-limit intervals ==== | ==== Selected 13-limit intervals ==== | ||
[[File:10ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]] | [[File:10ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]] | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br | ! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢) | ||
! colspan="2" | Tuning error | ! colspan="2" | Tuning error | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| 2.3.5 | | 2.3.5 | ||
| 25/24, 256/243 | | 25/24, 256/243 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 10 16 23 }} | ||
| -0.089 | | -0.089 | ||
| 9.27 | | 9.27 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7 | | 2.3.5.7 | ||
| 25/24, 28/27, 49/48 | | 25/24, 28/27, 49/48 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 10 16 23 28 }} | ||
| +0.718 | | +0.718 | ||
| 8.15 | | 8.15 | ||
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| 2.3.5.7.13 | | 2.3.5.7.13 | ||
| 25/24, 28/27, 40/39, 49/48 | | 25/24, 28/27, 40/39, 49/48 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 10 16 23 28 37 }} | ||
| +0.603 | | +0.603 | ||
| 7.30 | | 7.30 | ||
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{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-4 center-5" | {| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-4 center-5" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br | ! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br>limit]] | ||
! [[Ratio]]<ref group="note">{{rd}}</ref> | ! [[Ratio]]<ref group="note">{{rd}}</ref> | ||
! [[Monzo]] | ! [[Monzo]] | ||
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| Island comma, parizeksma | | Island comma, parizeksma | ||
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=== Rank-2 temperaments === | === Rank-2 temperaments === | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2" | {| class="wikitable center-1 center-2" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Periods<br | ! Periods<br>per 8ve | ||
! Generator | ! Generator | ||
! Temperament(s) | ! Temperament(s) | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 3\10 | | 3\10 | ||
| [[Dicot]] / [[beatles]] / [[neutral]] | | [[Dicot]] / [[beatles]] (out-of-tune) / [[neutral]] (out-of-tune) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
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| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 1\10 | | 1\10 | ||
| [[Blackwood | | [[Blackwood]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
If one wishes to use 10edo as a no-5s, 19-or-lower-limit tuning, then it benefits from [[octave shrinking]]. [[zpi|26zpi]] and [[36ed12]] are compressed-octave versions of 10edo. | |||
If one wishes to use 10edo as a no-3s, 13-or-lower-limit tuning, then it benefits from [[octave stretching]]. [[ed7|28ed7]] is a stretched version of 10edo. | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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=== Other scales === | === Other scales === | ||
* [[ | * [[Pinetone #Pinetone pentatonic|Pinetone major pentatonic]] (subset of Dicot[7]): 2 1 3 1 3 | ||
* [[ | * [[Pinetone #Pinetone pentatonic|Pinetone minor pentatonic]] (subset of Dicot[7]): 3 1 2 3 1 | ||
* [[Marvel hexatonic|Marvel augmented hexatonic]] (subset of Dicot[7]): 2 1 3 1 2 1 | * [[Marvel hexatonic|Marvel augmented hexatonic]] (subset of Dicot[7]): 2 1 3 1 2 1 | ||
* Marvel double harmonic hexatonic (subset of Dicot[7]): 1 2 1 3 2 1, 1 2 3 1 2 1 | * Marvel double harmonic hexatonic (subset of Dicot[7]): 1 2 1 3 2 1, 1 2 3 1 2 1 | ||
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=== Lumatone === | |||
''See [[Lumatone mapping for 10edo]]''. | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
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{{Catrel|10edo tracks}} | {{Catrel|10edo tracks}} | ||
== | == References == | ||
<references | <references/> | ||
[[Category:10-tone scales]] | [[Category:10-tone scales]] | ||