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In other words, there are [[Temperament_naming#Temperament_and_comma_naming_conventions|strong reasons]] for renaming this comma. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | In other words, there are [[Temperament_naming#Temperament_and_comma_naming_conventions|strong reasons]] for renaming this comma. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 15:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
: I agree to rename this comma especially because of [[1024/1023]]. I think your names would work well to accurately describe the musical function of this comma, but they are, compared to the name being replaced, very long, and they do not end in "-isma" meaning I have to coin a second name for either the very high-rank full [[41-limit]] temperament or the 2.5.41 subgroup temperament (I would also say that they can be mistaken for [[225/224]] but it already has an established name, so in practice, that is a non-issue). After a bit of thinking I came up with "qaugisma" but it's a few letters off from the name for [[4375/4374]], and "qaugic" sounds close to being [[magic]] (although the two can reasonably be merged, so maybe that isn't an entirely bad thing) so I think it might also be a poor name choice. --[[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] ([[User talk:CompactStar|talk]]) 18:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: The first name I suggested does end in "-isma" ("supermajor ambiharmonisma"), it slipped my mind to not make sure that the temperament names make sense for all the names I proposed though. It's a long name mainly/only because of "ambiharmonisma", from "ambiharmonic", but I suggest that this term or a shortenage of it (maybe we can get away with "ambisma"?) ideally become a standard for commas that have a power of two in the numerator or denominator so that they are the difference between a harmonic and subharmonic interval. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 19:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
::: I also think it should be renamed to something having to do with 41/32 and 32/25 or 25/16 and 64/41. Something like ''harmonic dimfourth comma'' might be good, or maybe it could even be shortened down from something like ''harmonic unquadragesimal diminished fourth comma''. --[[User:Tristanbay|Tristanbay]] ([[User talk:Tristanbay|talk]]) 00:48, 12 November 2025 (UTC) | |||
: I realize that qaugisma is connected to both of it's potential confused commas/temperaments (it is a high superparticular comma, and the temperament is optimally generated by a flat [[5/4]]) but that doesn't make the name any less confusing. [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] ([[User talk:CompactStar|talk]]) 18:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 00:48, 12 November 2025
Kilobytisma is not a good name.
Not only because the "kilobyte comma" (another bad name) is obviously 128/125 = 1024/1000 but also because this comma should be named something based on its musical implication, which is also quite obvious so it's honestly sort of puzzling to me that it wasn't named something based on the fact that it's equal to (41/32)/(32/25), representing an essentially-tempered supermajor augmented triad type possibility. I strongly suggest either the "supermajor ambiharmonisma" or the "supermajor augmented comma"/"augmented supermajor comma". --Godtone (talk) 14:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
In other words, there are strong reasons for renaming this comma. --Godtone (talk) 15:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree to rename this comma especially because of 1024/1023. I think your names would work well to accurately describe the musical function of this comma, but they are, compared to the name being replaced, very long, and they do not end in "-isma" meaning I have to coin a second name for either the very high-rank full 41-limit temperament or the 2.5.41 subgroup temperament (I would also say that they can be mistaken for 225/224 but it already has an established name, so in practice, that is a non-issue). After a bit of thinking I came up with "qaugisma" but it's a few letters off from the name for 4375/4374, and "qaugic" sounds close to being magic (although the two can reasonably be merged, so maybe that isn't an entirely bad thing) so I think it might also be a poor name choice. --CompactStar (talk) 18:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The first name I suggested does end in "-isma" ("supermajor ambiharmonisma"), it slipped my mind to not make sure that the temperament names make sense for all the names I proposed though. It's a long name mainly/only because of "ambiharmonisma", from "ambiharmonic", but I suggest that this term or a shortenage of it (maybe we can get away with "ambisma"?) ideally become a standard for commas that have a power of two in the numerator or denominator so that they are the difference between a harmonic and subharmonic interval. --Godtone (talk) 19:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I also think it should be renamed to something having to do with 41/32 and 32/25 or 25/16 and 64/41. Something like harmonic dimfourth comma might be good, or maybe it could even be shortened down from something like harmonic unquadragesimal diminished fourth comma. --Tristanbay (talk) 00:48, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- The first name I suggested does end in "-isma" ("supermajor ambiharmonisma"), it slipped my mind to not make sure that the temperament names make sense for all the names I proposed though. It's a long name mainly/only because of "ambiharmonisma", from "ambiharmonic", but I suggest that this term or a shortenage of it (maybe we can get away with "ambisma"?) ideally become a standard for commas that have a power of two in the numerator or denominator so that they are the difference between a harmonic and subharmonic interval. --Godtone (talk) 19:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I realize that qaugisma is connected to both of it's potential confused commas/temperaments (it is a high superparticular comma, and the temperament is optimally generated by a flat 5/4) but that doesn't make the name any less confusing. CompactStar (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)