Talk:Amity family

Proposal to rename catamite

We should rename "catamite" temperament: Amity family#Catamite.

Wikipedia: "A catamite (Latin: catamītus) was a pubescent boy who was the intimate companion of an older male, usually in a pederastic relationship."

While catamites were not always children, they often were, and we should not have a temperament named after child abuse.

This name contravenes Temperament naming: "the name must not be offensive, where "offensive" is defined as referring to topics that quite a few would deem controversial and/or where the name is NSFW (not-safe-for-work)."

I propose the name "stalagmite", since it's associated with caves so it preserves the meaning of "cata-" ("down").

Please reply and let me know:

1. If you think "catamite" should be renamed to something else.
2. If you would be okay with the name "stalagmite".
3. If you have any other names you would like to suggest?

If all or the large majority of replies are in favour, then after I receive 3 replies or after 24 hours pass, whichever happens first, I will go ahead and make the change.

--BudjarnLambeth (talk) 01:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

I agree that catamite is not an appropriate name, but stalagmite sounds kind of weird as a temperament name. I propose the name "inframity", as "infra" means "below".--Overthink (talk) 22:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

I've been thinking this temperament needs to be renamed also, but I wasn't sure if anyone else besides me really thought this was the case until now. --Aura (talk) 02:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Extensions

Amity

The mapping for 11 is obviously problematic as it excludes half of the tuning range, tho unless someone has a good name I don't mind keeping it. More importantly the mapping for 17 is weak, and so this branch (whatever name it uses) could go straight to no-17 19-limit.

Hitchcock

The mapping for 19 makes little sense. Even the 17 is questionable. Should be clipped at least after the 17-limit.

Stalagmite

Misses an obvious 23-limit extension, tho the mapping for 19 is questionable so we need to decide if it's full or no-19 23-limit.

Accord

Misses an obvious 13-limit extension (39df & 46).

Paramity

The mapping for 17 is weak. Could go straight to no-17 19-limit.

Trinity

The mapping for 17 is problematic. Should branch to 152fg & 311 and 159 & 311 in the 17-limit. Note that 463 is dual-13 dual-17 (463fg has a slightly lower 17-limit TE error than 463). The base temperament could be no-17 29-limit.

—FloraC (talk) 10:04, 3 June 2026 (UTC)