Talk:Just intonation point

Would anyone who understands the first part of this page be able to revise it a bit for clarity and/or extend it until it actually explains what JIP is? I'm completely lost. Here's my experience reading this text. It tells me that J is a point in a space. I am now in eager suspense about which point that is. Instead of answering that, a new object M is introduced. Whatever it is, it might be a monzo, it might not. This begs the question: what else could it be? And if it's not a monzo, it's not evaluated in octaves? Who cares if it is or isn't -- what does that have to do with JIP? We then do a "shift" which is weird because we weren't in any acknowledged state or action to shift away from yet, and we take my favorite arbitrary monzo I was implicitly asked to imagine as M (maybe!), which we haven't even used yet, and throw it away, now "representing" it as something using a variable "e" which is certainly not Euler's constant but isn't explained at all, and the grand conclusion is that J "becomes" something. But I don't want to know what it becomes; I want to know what it is in the first place. And the thing that it is shown to become doesn't make any sense from the typical interpretation of val: what kind of val could map all the primes to a single step? If you're going to use a bizarre val like that, certainly it has to be explained. --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 15:58, 6 May 2021 (UTC)