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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The **septimal** or **Archytas comma**, 64/63, is a [[xenharmonic/superparticular|superparticular ratio]] which equates [[xenharmonic/9_8|9/8]] and [[xenharmonic/8_7|8/7]] if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates [[xenharmonic/7_4|7/4]] with [[xenharmonic/16_9|16/9]], so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The interval 64/63, called **septimal** or **Archytas comma** (in german **Leipziger Komma**), is a [[xenharmonic/superparticular|superparticular ratio]] which equates [[xenharmonic/9_8|9/8]] and [[xenharmonic/8_7|8/7]] if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates [[xenharmonic/7_4|7/4]] with [[xenharmonic/16_9|16/9]], so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.


The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &gt;.
The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &gt;.
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_comma]]</pre></div>
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_comma]]</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;64_63&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The &lt;strong&gt;septimal&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;Archytas comma&lt;/strong&gt;, 64/63, is a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/superparticular"&gt;superparticular ratio&lt;/a&gt; which equates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/9_8"&gt;9/8&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/8_7"&gt;8/7&lt;/a&gt; if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/16_9"&gt;16/9&lt;/a&gt;, so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;64_63&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The interval 64/63, called &lt;strong&gt;septimal&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;Archytas comma&lt;/strong&gt; (in german &lt;strong&gt;Leipziger Komma&lt;/strong&gt;), is a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/superparticular"&gt;superparticular ratio&lt;/a&gt; which equates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/9_8"&gt;9/8&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/8_7"&gt;8/7&lt;/a&gt; if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/16_9"&gt;16/9&lt;/a&gt;, so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;

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The interval 64/63, called **septimal** or **Archytas comma** (in german **Leipziger Komma**), is a [[xenharmonic/superparticular|superparticular ratio]] which equates [[xenharmonic/9_8|9/8]] and [[xenharmonic/8_7|8/7]] if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates [[xenharmonic/7_4|7/4]] with [[xenharmonic/16_9|16/9]], so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.

The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 >.

It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that [[Porcupine family|Porcupine]], which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.)

If you are using 9/7 major thirds, this also implies that the major third is split into two equal steps that represent both 9/8 and 8/7: If a stack of four fifths gets you to (octave-equivalent) 9/7, and a stack of two fifths gets you to 9/8, then the difference must be (9/7)/(9/8) = 8/7. The 8/7 and 9/8 intervals are equal, however, as a result of the generation process.


[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_comma]]

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<html><head><title>64_63</title></head><body>The interval 64/63, called <strong>septimal</strong> or <strong>Archytas comma</strong> (in german <strong>Leipziger Komma</strong>), is a <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/superparticular">superparticular ratio</a> which equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/9_8">9/8</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/8_7">8/7</a> if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7_4">7/4</a> with <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/16_9">16/9</a>, so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.<br />
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The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &gt;.<br />
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It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family">Porcupine</a>, which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.)<br />
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If you are using 9/7 major thirds, this also implies that the major third is split into two equal steps that represent both 9/8 and 8/7: If a stack of four fifths gets you to (octave-equivalent) 9/7, and a stack of two fifths gets you to 9/8, then the difference must be (9/7)/(9/8) = 8/7. The 8/7 and 9/8 intervals are equal, however, as a result of the generation process.<br />
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