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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
410edo is closely related to [[205edo]], but the [[patent val]] differs on the mappings for 7 and 13. It is [[contorted]] in the [[5-limit]], tempering out 1600000/1594323 ([[amity comma]]) and {{monzo| 38 -2 -15 }} (luna/hemithirds comma), as well as {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }} (gammic comma) and {{monzo| 47 -15 -10 }} (qintosec comma). It tempers out 2401/2400 ([[breedsma]]), 4802000/4782969 ([[canousma]]), and 48828125/48771072 (neptunisma) in the [[7-limit]]; 5632/5625, [[9801/9800]], [[14641/14580]], and 117649/117612 in the [[11-limit]]; [[676/675]], [[1001/1000]], [[1716/1715]], [[2080/2079]], [[4096/4095]], and [[4225/4224]] in the 13-limit.
410edo is closely related to [[205edo]], but the [[patent val]] differs on the mappings for 7 and 13. It is [[contorted]] in the [[5-limit]], tempering out 1600000/1594323 ([[amity comma]]) and {{monzo| 38 -2 -15 }} (luna/hemithirds comma), as well as {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }} (gammic comma) and {{monzo| 47 -15 -10 }} (qintosec comma). It tempers out 2401/2400 ([[breedsma]]), 4802000/4782969 ([[canousma]]), and 48828125/48771072 (neptunisma) in the [[7-limit]]; [[5632/5625]], [[9801/9800]], [[14641/14580]], and 117649/117612 in the [[11-limit]]; [[676/675]], [[1001/1000]], [[1716/1715]], [[2080/2079]], [[4096/4095]], and [[4225/4224]] in the 13-limit.


410edo provides the [[optimal patent val]] for the 11- and 13-limit [[semiluna]], [[hemiluna]], and [[floral]] temperament, the rank-3 [[semicanou]] temperament, and the rank-4 temperament tempering out 14641/14580.  
410edo provides the [[optimal patent val]] for the 11- and 13-limit [[semiluna]], [[hemiluna]], and [[floral]] temperament, the rank-3 [[semicanou]] temperament, and the rank-4 temperament tempering out 14641/14580.  


410edo works much better as a no-11 no-13 subgroup temperament, with a sharp tendency to harmonics up to 29. For example, it tempers out [[1216/1215]], [[1225/1224]], [[1445/1444]], and 2500/2499 in the 2.3.5.7.17.19 subgroup.  
410edo works much better as a no-11 no-13 subgroup temperament, with a sharp tendency to harmonics up to 29. For example, it tempers out [[1216/1215]], [[1225/1224]], [[1445/1444]], and 2500/2499 in the 2.3.5.7.17.19 subgroup.  
=== Possible usage in Georgian music ===
410edo's fifth is on its 240th step, which is a highly composite number. As such, it supports EDFs which are divisors of 240. In addition, it's perfect fourth is on the 170th step, which while is not highly composite, is still notable to carry a few ED4/3 scales. This can be used to play [[Kartvelian scales]].


=== Prime harmonics ===
=== Prime harmonics ===
{{Harmonics in equal|410|columns=11}}
{{Harmonics in equal|410|columns=11}}
=== Miscellaneous properties ===
Since 410 = 2 × 5 × 41, 410edo has subset edos {{EDOs| 2, 5, 10, 41, 82, and 205 }}.
410edo's fifth is on its 240th step, which is a highly composite number. As such, it supports edfs which are divisors of 240. In addition, its perfect fourth is on the 170th step, which while is not highly composite, is still notable to carry a few ed4/3 scales. This can be used to play [[Kartvelian scales]].


== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==

Revision as of 05:58, 16 October 2022

← 409edo 410edo 411edo →
Prime factorization 2 × 5 × 41
Step size 2.92683 ¢ 
Fifth 240\410 (702.439 ¢) (→ 24\41)
Semitones (A1:m2) 40:30 (117.1 ¢ : 87.8 ¢)
Consistency limit 9
Distinct consistency limit 9

The 410 equal divisions of the octave (410edo), or the 410(-tone) equal temperament (410tet, 410et) when viewed from a regular temperament perspective, is the equal division of the octave into 410 parts of about 2.93 cents each.

Theory

410edo is closely related to 205edo, but the patent val differs on the mappings for 7 and 13. It is contorted in the 5-limit, tempering out 1600000/1594323 (amity comma) and [38 -2 -15 (luna/hemithirds comma), as well as [-29 -11 20 (gammic comma) and [47 -15 -10 (qintosec comma). It tempers out 2401/2400 (breedsma), 4802000/4782969 (canousma), and 48828125/48771072 (neptunisma) in the 7-limit; 5632/5625, 9801/9800, 14641/14580, and 117649/117612 in the 11-limit; 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 4096/4095, and 4225/4224 in the 13-limit.

410edo provides the optimal patent val for the 11- and 13-limit semiluna, hemiluna, and floral temperament, the rank-3 semicanou temperament, and the rank-4 temperament tempering out 14641/14580.

410edo works much better as a no-11 no-13 subgroup temperament, with a sharp tendency to harmonics up to 29. For example, it tempers out 1216/1215, 1225/1224, 1445/1444, and 2500/2499 in the 2.3.5.7.17.19 subgroup.

Prime harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 410edo
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31
Error Absolute (¢) +0.00 +0.48 +0.03 -0.05 -1.07 -0.53 +0.41 +1.02 +0.99 +0.67 -0.65
Relative (%) +0.0 +16.5 +0.9 -1.6 -36.7 -18.0 +14.0 +35.0 +34.0 +22.8 -22.0
Steps
(reduced)
410
(0)
650
(240)
952
(132)
1151
(331)
1418
(188)
1517
(287)
1676
(36)
1742
(102)
1855
(215)
1992
(352)
2031
(391)

Miscellaneous properties

Since 410 = 2 × 5 × 41, 410edo has subset edos 2, 5, 10, 41, 82, and 205.

410edo's fifth is on its 240th step, which is a highly composite number. As such, it supports edfs which are divisors of 240. In addition, its perfect fourth is on the 170th step, which while is not highly composite, is still notable to carry a few ed4/3 scales. This can be used to play Kartvelian scales.

Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma list Mapping Optimal
8ve stretch (¢)
Tuning error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3.5.7 2401/2400, 1600000/1594323, 48828125/48771072 [410 650 952 1151]] -0.0753 0.1332 4.55
2.3.5.7.17 1225/1224, 2401/2400, 24576/24565, 295936/295245 [410 650 952 1151 1676]] -0.0803 0.1196 4.09
2.3.5.7.17.19 1216/1215, 1225/1224, 1445/1444, 2401/2400, 24576/24565 [410 650 952 1151 1676 1742]] -0.1071 0.1245 4.25

Rank-2 temperaments

Note: 5-limit temperaments supported by 205et are not shown.

Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
Periods
per octave
Generator
(reduced)
Cents
(reduced)
Associated
ratio
Temperaments
1 29\410 84.88 21/20 Amicable / amical
1 33\410 96.59 143/135 Hemiluna
1 118\410 348.29 57344/46875 Subneutral
1 199\410 582.44 7/5 Neptune
2 29\410 84.88 21/20 Floral
2 66\410 193.17 121/108 Semiluna
2 6\410 17.56 99/98 Poseidon
10 85\410
(3\410)
248.78
(8.78)
15/13
(176/175)
Decoid

Scales

  • Kartvelian Tetratonic: 120 120 85 85 (simplifies to 82edo)
  • Kartvelian Decatonic: 48 48 48 48 48 34 34 34 34 34 (simplifies to 205edo)
  • Kartvelian 22-tonic: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17 17