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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">=<span style="color: #007a23; font-family: 'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 113%;">39 tone equal temperament</span>= | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">=<span style="color: #007a23; font-family: 'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 113%;">39 tone equal temperament</span>= | ||
**39-EDO** or **39-tET** divides the Octave in 39 equal parts of 30.76923 Cents each one. If we take 22\39 as a fifth, can be used in Mavila Temperament, and from that point of view seems to have attracted the attention of the Armodue school, an Italian group interested in 16EDO, **Hornbostel Temperament** and allied systems (like a 23 and 25 EDOs [1/3-tones]; 39 and 41 EDOs [1/5-tones]; 55 and 57 EDOs [1/7-tones]; 69 and 73 EDOs [1/9-tones] & 85 and 89 EDOs [1/11-tones]). However, its 23\39 fifth, five and three-quarters cents sharp, is in much better tune than the Mavila fifth which like all Mavila fifths is very, very flat, in this case, 25 cents flat. Together with its best third which is the familiar 400 cents of 12 equal, we get a system which tempers out the diesis, 128/125, and the amity comma, 1600000/1594323. We have two choices for a map for 7, but the sharp one works better with the 3 and 5, which adds 64/63 and 126/125 to the list. Tempering out both 128/125 and 64/63 makes 39EDO in some few ways allied to 12-ET in supporting augene temperament, and is in fact an excellent choice for an augene tuning, but one difference is that 39 has a fine 11, and adding it to consideration we find that 39-EDO tempers out 99/98 and 121/120 also. This better choice for 39et is <39 62 91 110 135|. | **39-EDO, 39-ED2** or **39-tET** divides the Octave in 39 equal parts of 30.76923 Cents each one. If we take 22\39 as a fifth, can be used in Mavila Temperament, and from that point of view seems to have attracted the attention of the Armodue school, an Italian group interested in 16EDO, **Hornbostel Temperament** and allied systems (like a 23 and 25 EDOs [1/3-tones]; 39 and 41 EDOs [1/5-tones]; 55 and 57 EDOs [1/7-tones]; 69 and 73 EDOs [1/9-tones] & 85 and 89 EDOs [1/11-tones]). However, its 23\39 fifth, five and three-quarters cents sharp, is in much better tune than the Mavila fifth which like all Mavila fifths is very, very flat, in this case, 25 cents flat. Together with its best third which is the familiar 400 cents of 12 equal, we get a system which tempers out the diesis, 128/125, and the amity comma, 1600000/1594323. We have two choices for a map for 7, but the sharp one works better with the 3 and 5, which adds 64/63 and 126/125 to the list. Tempering out both 128/125 and 64/63 makes 39EDO in some few ways allied to 12-ET in supporting augene temperament, and is in fact an excellent choice for an augene tuning, but one difference is that 39 has a fine 11, and adding it to consideration we find that 39-EDO tempers out 99/98 and 121/120 also. This better choice for 39et is <39 62 91 110 135|. | ||
==__**39-EDO Intervals**__== | ==__**39-EDO Intervals**__== | ||
|| **NOMENCLATURE** || | || **NOMENCLATURE** || | ||
|| **t** = Semisharp | || **t** = Semisharp (1/5-tone up) | ||
**v** = Semiflat || | **b** = Flat (3/5-tone down) | ||
**#** = Sharp (3/5-tone up) | |||
**v** = Semiflat (1/5-tone down) || | |||
|| ** | || **Degrees** || **Armodue note** || **Cents size** || **[[Nearest just interval|Nearest Just I]]nterval** || **Cents value** || **Error** || | ||
|| 0 || **1** || 0 || **1/1** || 0 || **None** || | || 0 || **1** || 0 || **1/1** || 0 || **None** || | ||
|| 1 || 1t || 30.7692 || 57/56 || 30.6421 || +0.1271 || | || 1 || 1t || 30.7692 || 57/56 || 30.6421 || +0.1271 || | ||
|| 2 || | || 2 || 2b || 61.5385 || 29/28 || 60.7513 || +0.7872 || | ||
|| 3 || | || 3 || 1# || 92.3077 || 39/37 || 91.1386 || +1.1691 || | ||
|| 4 || 2v || 123.0769 || 44/41 || 122.2555 || +0.8214 || | || 4 || 2v || 123.0769 || 44/41 || 122.2555 || +0.8214 || | ||
|| 5 || 2 || 153.8462 || 35/32 || 155.1396 || -1.2934 || | || 5 || 2 || 153.8462 || 35/32 || 155.1396 || -1.2934 || | ||
|| 6 || 2t || 184.6154 || 10/9 || 182.4037 || +2.2117 || | || 6 || 2t || 184.6154 || 10/9 || 182.4037 || +2.2117 || | ||
|| **7·** || ** | || **7·** || **3b** || **215.3846** || **17/15** || **216.6867** || **-1.3021** || | ||
|| 8 || | || 8 || 2# || 246.1538 || 15/13 || 247.7411 || -1.5873 || | ||
|| 9 || 3v || 276.9231 || 27/23 || 277.5907 || -0.6676 || | || 9 || 3v || 276.9231 || 27/23 || 277.5907 || -0.6676 || | ||
|| 10 || 3 || 307.6923 || 43/36 || 307.6077 || +0.0846 || | || 10 || 3 || 307.6923 || 43/36 || 307.6077 || +0.0846 || | ||
|| 11 || 3t || 338.4615 || 17/14 || 336.1295 || +2.332 || | || 11 || 3t || 338.4615 || 17/14 || 336.1295 || +2.332 || | ||
|| **12·** || ** | || **12·** || **4b** || **369.2308** || **26/21** || **369.7468** || **-0.516** || | ||
|| 13 || | || 13 || 3# || 400 || 34/27 || 399.0904 || +0.9096 || | ||
|| 14 || 4v || 430.7692 || 41/32 || 429.0624 || +1.7068 || | || 14 || 4v || 430.7692 || 41/32 || 429.0624 || +1.7068 || | ||
|| 15 || 4 || 461.5385 || 30/23 || 459.9944 || +1.5441 || | || 15 || 4 || 461.5385 || 30/23 || 459.9944 || +1.5441 || | ||
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|| **17·** || **5** || **523.0769** || **23/17** || **523.3189** || **-0.242** || | || **17·** || **5** || **523.0769** || **23/17** || **523.3189** || **-0.242** || | ||
|| 18 || 5t || 553.8462 || 11/8 || 551.3179 || +2.5283 || | || 18 || 5t || 553.8462 || 11/8 || 551.3179 || +2.5283 || | ||
|| 19 || | || 19 || 6b || 584.6154 || 7/5 || 582.5122 || +2.1032 || | ||
|| 20 || | || 20 || 5# || 615.3846 || 10/7 || 617.4878 || -2.1032 || | ||
|| 21 || 6v || 646.1538 || 16/11 || 648.6821 || -2.5283 || | || 21 || 6v || 646.1538 || 16/11 || 648.6821 || -2.5283 || | ||
|| **22·** || **6** || **676.9231** || **34/23** || **676.6811** || **+0.242** || | || **22·** || **6** || **676.9231** || **34/23** || **676.6811** || **+0.242** || | ||
|| 23 || 6t || 707.6923 || 128/85 || 708.7309 || -1.0386 || | || 23 || 6t || 707.6923 || 128/85 || 708.7309 || -1.0386 || | ||
|| 24 || | || 24 || 7b || 738.4615 || 23/15 || 740.0056 || -1.5441 || | ||
|| 25 || | || 25 || 6# || 769.2308 || 64/41 || 770.9376 || -1.7068 || | ||
|| 26 || 7v || 800 || 27/17 || 800.9096 || -0.9096 || | || 26 || 7v || 800 || 27/17 || 800.9096 || -0.9096 || | ||
|| **27·** || **7** || **830.7692** || **21/13** || **830.2532** || **+0.516** || | || **27·** || **7** || **830.7692** || **21/13** || **830.2532** || **+0.516** || | ||
|| 28 || 7t || 861.5385 || 28/17 || 863.8705 || -2.332 || | || 28 || 7t || 861.5385 || 28/17 || 863.8705 || -2.332 || | ||
|| 29 || | || 29 || 8b || 892.3077 || 72/43 || 892.3923 || -0.0846 || | ||
|| 30 || | || 30 || 7# || 923.0769 || 46/27 || 922.4093 || +0.6676 || | ||
|| 31 || 8v || 953.8462 || 26/15 || 952.2589 || +1.5873 || | || 31 || 8v || 953.8462 || 26/15 || 952.2589 || +1.5873 || | ||
|| **32·** || **8** || **984.6154** || **30/17** || **983.3133** || **+1.3021** || | || **32·** || **8** || **984.6154** || **30/17** || **983.3133** || **+1.3021** || | ||
|| 33 || 8t || 1015.3846 || 9/5 || 1017.5963 || -2.2117 || | || 33 || 8t || 1015.3846 || 9/5 || 1017.5963 || -2.2117 || | ||
|| 34 || | || 34 || 9b || 1046.1538 || 64/35 || 1044.8604 || +1.2934 || | ||
|| 35 || | || 35 || 8# || 1076.9231 || 41/22 || 1077.7445 || -0.8214 || | ||
|| 36 || 9v || 1107.6923 || 74/39 || 1108.8614 || -1.1691 || | || 36 || 9v || 1107.6923 || 74/39 || 1108.8614 || -1.1691 || | ||
|| 37 || 9 || 1138.4615 || 56/29 || 1139.2487 || -0.7872 || | || 37 || 9 || 1138.4615 || 56/29 || 1139.2487 || -0.7872 || | ||
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<strong>39-EDO</strong> or <strong>39-tET</strong> divides the Octave in 39 equal parts of 30.76923 Cents each one. If we take 22\39 as a fifth, can be used in Mavila Temperament, and from that point of view seems to have attracted the attention of the Armodue school, an Italian group interested in 16EDO, <strong>Hornbostel Temperament</strong> and allied systems (like a 23 and 25 EDOs [1/3-tones]; 39 and 41 EDOs [1/5-tones]; 55 and 57 EDOs [1/7-tones]; 69 and 73 EDOs [1/9-tones] &amp; 85 and 89 EDOs [1/11-tones]). However, its 23\39 fifth, five and three-quarters cents sharp, is in much better tune than the Mavila fifth which like all Mavila fifths is very, very flat, in this case, 25 cents flat. Together with its best third which is the familiar 400 cents of 12 equal, we get a system which tempers out the diesis, 128/125, and the amity comma, 1600000/1594323. We have two choices for a map for 7, but the sharp one works better with the 3 and 5, which adds 64/63 and 126/125 to the list. Tempering out both 128/125 and 64/63 makes 39EDO in some few ways allied to 12-ET in supporting augene temperament, and is in fact an excellent choice for an augene tuning, but one difference is that 39 has a fine 11, and adding it to consideration we find that 39-EDO tempers out 99/98 and 121/120 also. This better choice for 39et is &lt;39 62 91 110 135|.<br /> | <strong>39-EDO, 39-ED2</strong> or <strong>39-tET</strong> divides the Octave in 39 equal parts of 30.76923 Cents each one. If we take 22\39 as a fifth, can be used in Mavila Temperament, and from that point of view seems to have attracted the attention of the Armodue school, an Italian group interested in 16EDO, <strong>Hornbostel Temperament</strong> and allied systems (like a 23 and 25 EDOs [1/3-tones]; 39 and 41 EDOs [1/5-tones]; 55 and 57 EDOs [1/7-tones]; 69 and 73 EDOs [1/9-tones] &amp; 85 and 89 EDOs [1/11-tones]). However, its 23\39 fifth, five and three-quarters cents sharp, is in much better tune than the Mavila fifth which like all Mavila fifths is very, very flat, in this case, 25 cents flat. Together with its best third which is the familiar 400 cents of 12 equal, we get a system which tempers out the diesis, 128/125, and the amity comma, 1600000/1594323. We have two choices for a map for 7, but the sharp one works better with the 3 and 5, which adds 64/63 and 126/125 to the list. Tempering out both 128/125 and 64/63 makes 39EDO in some few ways allied to 12-ET in supporting augene temperament, and is in fact an excellent choice for an augene tuning, but one difference is that 39 has a fine 11, and adding it to consideration we find that 39-EDO tempers out 99/98 and 121/120 also. This better choice for 39et is &lt;39 62 91 110 135|.<br /> | ||
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<td><strong>t</strong> = Semisharp<br /> | <td><strong>t</strong> = Semisharp (1/5-tone up)<br /> | ||
<strong>v</strong> = Semiflat<br /> | <strong>b</strong> = Flat (3/5-tone down)<br /> | ||
<ul><ul><ul><ul><ul><li>= Sharp (3/5-tone up)</li></ul></ul></ul></ul></ul><strong>v</strong> = Semiflat (1/5-tone down)<br /> | |||
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<td><strong> | <td><strong>Degrees</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong> | <td><strong>Armodue note</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong> | <td><strong>Cents size</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong><a class="wiki_link" href="/Nearest%20just%20interval">Nearest Just I</a>nterval</strong><br /> | <td><strong><a class="wiki_link" href="/Nearest%20just%20interval">Nearest Just I</a>nterval</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong>Cents</strong><br /> | <td><strong>Cents value</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong>Error</strong><br /> | <td><strong>Error</strong><br /> | ||
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<td>2<br /> | <td>2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>2b<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>61.5385<br /> | <td>61.5385<br /> | ||
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<td>3<br /> | <td>3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>1#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>92.3077<br /> | <td>92.3077<br /> | ||
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<td><strong>7·</strong><br /> | <td><strong>7·</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong> | <td><strong>3b</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong>215.3846</strong><br /> | <td><strong>215.3846</strong><br /> | ||
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<td>8<br /> | <td>8<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>2#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>246.1538<br /> | <td>246.1538<br /> | ||
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<td><strong>12·</strong><br /> | <td><strong>12·</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong> | <td><strong>4b</strong><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><strong>369.2308</strong><br /> | <td><strong>369.2308</strong><br /> | ||
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<td>13<br /> | <td>13<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>3#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>400<br /> | <td>400<br /> | ||
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<td>19<br /> | <td>19<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>6b<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>584.6154<br /> | <td>584.6154<br /> | ||
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<td>20<br /> | <td>20<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>5#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>615.3846<br /> | <td>615.3846<br /> | ||
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<td>24<br /> | <td>24<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>7b<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>738.4615<br /> | <td>738.4615<br /> | ||
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<td>25<br /> | <td>25<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>6#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>769.2308<br /> | <td>769.2308<br /> | ||
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<td>29<br /> | <td>29<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>8b<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>892.3077<br /> | <td>892.3077<br /> | ||
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<td>30<br /> | <td>30<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>7#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>923.0769<br /> | <td>923.0769<br /> | ||
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<td>34<br /> | <td>34<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>9b<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1046.1538<br /> | <td>1046.1538<br /> | ||
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<td>35<br /> | <td>35<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | <td>8#<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1076.9231<br /> | <td>1076.9231<br /> | ||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule: | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule:606:&lt;img src=&quot;/file/view/TECLADO_39-EDO.PNG/258413072/TECLADO_39-EDO.PNG&quot; alt=&quot;39-EDO Keyboard Classic Prototype.&quot; title=&quot;39-EDO Keyboard Classic Prototype.&quot; /&gt; --><table class="captionBox"><tr><td class="captionedImage"><img src="/file/view/TECLADO_39-EDO.PNG/258413072/TECLADO_39-EDO.PNG" alt="TECLADO_39-EDO.PNG" title="TECLADO_39-EDO.PNG" /></td></tr><tr><td class="imageCaption">39-EDO Keyboard Classic Prototype.</td></tr></table><!-- ws:end:WikiTextLocalImageRule:606 --><br /> | ||
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