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29 is the lowest edo which approximates the 3:2 just fifth more accurately than 12edo: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a [[positive temperament]] -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system.  
29 is the lowest edo which approximates the 3:2 just fifth more accurately than 12edo: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a [[positive temperament]] -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system.  


The third (and of course second) is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so stunningly well. Accordingly it's best use is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale, which despite yall's focus on insane xenharmonic stuff is still a good thing to have around. It does give some good approximations of other just ratios, but without the harmonics themselves, making them into actual chords in sensible progressions is impossible.
The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the [[The Archipelago|barbados triad]] 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing.


==Intervals==  
==Intervals==  
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29 is the lowest edo which approximates the 3:2 just fifth more accurately than 12edo: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/positive%20temperament"&gt;positive temperament&lt;/a&gt; -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system. &lt;br /&gt;
29 is the lowest edo which approximates the 3:2 just fifth more accurately than 12edo: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/positive%20temperament"&gt;positive temperament&lt;/a&gt; -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system. &lt;br /&gt;
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The third (and of course second) is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so stunningly well. Accordingly it's best use is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale, which despite yall's focus on insane xenharmonic stuff is still a good thing to have around. It does give some good approximations of other just ratios, but without the harmonics themselves, making them into actual chords in sensible progressions is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Archipelago"&gt;barbados triad&lt;/a&gt; 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing.&lt;br /&gt;
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=<span style="color: #ff4700; font-size: 103%;">29 tone equal temperament</span>= 

29edo divides the 2:1 octave into 29 equal steps of approximately 41.37931 cents.

29 is the lowest edo which approximates the 3:2 just fifth more accurately than 12edo: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a [[positive temperament]] -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system. 

The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the [[The Archipelago|barbados triad]] 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing.

==Intervals== 
|| Degrees of 29-EDO || Cents value ||
|| 0 || 0 ||
|| 1 || 41.379 ||
|| 2 || 82.759 ||
|| 3 || 124.138 ||
|| 4 || 165.517 ||
|| 5 || 206.897 ||
|| 6 || 248.276 ||
|| 7 || 289.655 ||
|| 8 || 331.034 ||
|| 9 || 372.414 ||
|| 10 || 413.793 ||
|| 11 || 455.172 ||
|| 12 || 496.552 ||
|| 13 || 537.931 ||
|| 14 || 579.310 ||
|| 15 || 620.690 ||
|| 16 || 662.069 ||
|| 17 || 703.448 ||
|| 18 || 744.828 ||
|| 19 || 786.207 ||
|| 20 || 827.586 ||
|| 21 || 868.966 ||
|| 22 || 910.345 ||
|| 23 || 951.724 ||
|| 24 || 993.103 ||
|| 25 || 1034.483 ||
|| 26 || 1075.862 ||
|| 27 || 1117.241 ||
|| 28 || 1158.621 ||

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29edo divides the 2:1 octave into 29 equal steps of approximately 41.37931 cents.<br />
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29 is the lowest edo which approximates the 3:2 just fifth more accurately than 12edo: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a <a class="wiki_link" href="/positive%20temperament">positive temperament</a> -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system. <br />
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The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Archipelago">barbados triad</a> 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing.<br />
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    <tr>
        <td>Degrees of 29-EDO<br />
</td>
        <td>Cents value<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>0<br />
</td>
        <td>0<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>1<br />
</td>
        <td>41.379<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>2<br />
</td>
        <td>82.759<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>3<br />
</td>
        <td>124.138<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>4<br />
</td>
        <td>165.517<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>5<br />
</td>
        <td>206.897<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>6<br />
</td>
        <td>248.276<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>7<br />
</td>
        <td>289.655<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>8<br />
</td>
        <td>331.034<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>9<br />
</td>
        <td>372.414<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>10<br />
</td>
        <td>413.793<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>11<br />
</td>
        <td>455.172<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>12<br />
</td>
        <td>496.552<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>13<br />
</td>
        <td>537.931<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>14<br />
</td>
        <td>579.310<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>15<br />
</td>
        <td>620.690<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>16<br />
</td>
        <td>662.069<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>17<br />
</td>
        <td>703.448<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>18<br />
</td>
        <td>744.828<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>19<br />
</td>
        <td>786.207<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>20<br />
</td>
        <td>827.586<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>21<br />
</td>
        <td>868.966<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>22<br />
</td>
        <td>910.345<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>23<br />
</td>
        <td>951.724<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>24<br />
</td>
        <td>993.103<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>25<br />
</td>
        <td>1034.483<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>26<br />
</td>
        <td>1075.862<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>27<br />
</td>
        <td>1117.241<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>28<br />
</td>
        <td>1158.621<br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

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