Talk:MOS naming: Difference between revisions

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If small/large are supposed to be used instead of major/minor (which I agree with), are they also used for perfect intervals (i.e. the generator) and its augmented/diminished versions? Then what about augmented/diminished --- do they not have the same meaning as in diatonic, or do you have different terms for the chroma sharp and flat alterations in generic moses? I want TAMNAMS to catch up with more established usage. [[User:Inthar|Inthar]] ([[User talk:Inthar|talk]]) 13:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

: It would seem to me that if the objective is to abstract away the harmonic interpretation of interval names, instead focusing on the size relationships, it would be necessary to create alternative names for augmented and diminished. I would propose '''enlarged''' and '''reduced'''. Perfect would should not change, as it represents the generator.

: The reason for this is obvious when looking at systems where it makes more sense to invert major and minor by forcefully changing the bright generator, such as antidiatonic and sephiroid. With #/b and major/minor switched, augmented/diminished is also reversed, while perfect remains.

: Another option would be, of course, to just drop the whole idea along with diamond MOS.

: In any case, I would recommend specifying that these intervals names be ''co-official with the harmonic maj/min/aug/dim/#/b''. They can be regular or inverted depending on MOS pattern, since the two systems have separate objectives.

: As a side note on diamond MOS, have you thought about using ''+ and -'' (as in A+ B-) instead of ''& and @''? I find the current system very indistinct for inline text and difficult to follow. [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 17:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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 If small/large are supposed to be used instead of major/minor (which I agree with), are they also used for perfect intervals (i.e. the generator) and its augmented/diminished versions? Then what about augmented/diminished --- do they not have the same meaning as in diatonic, or do you have different terms for the chroma sharp and flat alterations in generic moses? I want TAMNAMS to catch up with more established usage. [[User:Inthar|Inthar]] ([[User talk:Inthar|talk]]) 13:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
+: It would seem to me that if the objective is to abstract away the harmonic interpretation of interval names, instead focusing on the size relationships, it would be necessary to create alternative names for augmented and diminished. I would propose '''enlarged''' and '''reduced'''. Perfect would should not change, as it represents the generator.
+: The reason for this is obvious when looking at systems where it makes more sense to invert major and minor by forcefully changing the bright generator, such as antidiatonic and sephiroid. With #/b and major/minor switched, augmented/diminished is also reversed, while perfect remains.
+: Another option would be, of course, to just drop the whole idea along with diamond MOS.
+: In any case, I would recommend specifying that these intervals names be ''co-official with the harmonic maj/min/aug/dim/#/b''. They can be regular or inverted depending on MOS pattern, since the two systems have separate objectives.
+: As a side note on diamond MOS, have you thought about using ''+ and -'' (as in A+ B-) instead of ''& and @''? I find the current system very indistinct for inline text and difficult to follow. [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 17:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)