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In temperament terms, 21-EDO can be treated as a 13-limit temperament, but of harmonics 3, 5, 7, 11, and 13, the only harmonic 21-EDO approximates with anything approaching a near-Just flavor is the 7th harmonic. On the other hand, 21-EDO provides exceptionally accurate tunings of the 15th, 23rd, and 29th harmonics (within 3 cents or less), as well as a very reasonable approximation of the 27th harmonic (around 8 cents sharp). As such, treating 21-EDO as a 2.7.15.23.27.29 subgroup temperament allows for a more accurate rationalization of the tuning, since almost every interval in 21-EDO can be described as a ratio within the 29-odd-limit.
In temperament terms, 21-EDO can be treated as a 13-limit temperament, but of harmonics 3, 5, 7, 11, and 13, the only harmonic 21-EDO approximates with anything approaching a near-Just flavor is the 7th harmonic. On the other hand, 21-EDO provides exceptionally accurate tunings of the 15th, 23rd, and 29th harmonics (within 3 cents or less), as well as a very reasonable approximation of the 27th harmonic (around 8 cents sharp). As such, treating 21-EDO as a 2.7.15.23.27.29 subgroup temperament allows for a more accurate rationalization of the tuning, since almost every interval in 21-EDO can be described as a ratio within the 29-odd-limit.
|| **Degree** || **Cents**
|| **Degree** || **Cents**
**Value** || **Letter** ||= **D.-R. Name** ||= **Approximate**
**Value** || **7-EDO**
**Notation** || **5L3s**
**Notation** ||= **D.-R. Interval**
**Types** ||= **Approximate**
**Ratios*** ||
**Ratios*** ||
|| 0 || 0 || C ||= Unison ||= 1/1 ||
|| 0 || 0 || C || C ||= Unison ||= 1/1 ||
|| 1 || 57.143 || C^/Dvv ||= Subminor 2nd ||= 28/27, 30/29 ||
|| 1 || 57.143 || C^/Dvv || C# ||= Subminor 2nd ||= 28/27, 30/29 ||
|| 2 || 114.286 || C^^/Dv ||= Minor 2nd ||= 16/15, 15/14, 29/27 ||
|| 2 || 114.286 || C^^/Dv || Db ||= Minor 2nd ||= 16/15, 15/14, 29/27 ||
|| 3 || 171.429 || D ||= Submajor 2nd ||= 10/9, 32/29 ||
|| 3 || 171.429 || D || D ||= Submajor 2nd ||= 10/9, 32/29 ||
|| 4 || 228.571 || D^/Evv ||= Supermajor 2nd ||= 8/7 ||
|| 4 || 228.571 || D^/Evv || D# ||= Supermajor 2nd ||= 8/7 ||
|| 5 || 285.714 || D^^/Ev ||= Subminor 3rd ||= 27/23, 32/27 ||
|| 5 || 285.714 || D^^/Ev || Eb ||= Subminor 3rd ||= 27/23, 32/27 ||
|| 6 || 342.857 || E ||= Neutral 3rd ||= 28/23 ||
|| 6 || 342.857 || E || E ||= Neutral 3rd ||= 28/23 ||
|| 7 || 400 || E^/Fvv ||= Major 3rd ||= 29/23 ||
|| 7 || 400 || E^/Fvv || E#/Fb ||= Major 3rd ||= 29/23 ||
|| 8 || 457.143 || E^^/Fv ||= Third-Fourth ||= 30/23 ||
|| 8 || 457.143 || E^^/Fv || F ||= Third-Fourth ||= 30/23 ||
|| 9 || 514.286 || F ||= Acute 4th ||= 161/120, 256/189 ||
|| 9 || 514.286 || F || F# ||= Acute 4th ||= 161/120, 256/189 ||
|| 10 || 571.429 || F^/Gvv ||= Narrow Tritone ||= 32/23 ||
|| 10 || 571.429 || F^/Gvv || Gb ||= Narrow Tritone ||= 32/23 ||
|| 11 || 628.571 || F^^/Gv ||= Wide Tritone ||= 23/16 ||
|| 11 || 628.571 || F^^/Gv || G ||= Wide Tritone ||= 23/16 ||
|| 12 || 685.714 || G ||= Grave 5th ||= 189/128, 240/161 ||
|| 12 || 685.714 || G || G# ||= Grave 5th ||= 189/128, 240/161 ||
|| 13 || 742.857 || G^/Avv ||= Fifth-Sixth ||= 23/15 ||
|| 13 || 742.857 || G^/Avv || Hb ||= Fifth-Sixth ||= 23/15 ||
|| 14 || 800 || G^^/Av ||= Minor 6th ||= 46/29 ||
|| 14 || 800 || G^^/Av || H ||= Minor 6th ||= 46/29 ||
|| 15 || 857.143 || A ||= Neutral 6th ||= 23/14 ||
|| 15 || 857.143 || A || H#/Ab ||= Neutral 6th ||= 23/14 ||
|| 16 || 914.286 || A^/Bvv ||= Supermajor 6th ||= 27/16, 46/27 ||
|| 16 || 914.286 || A^/Bvv || A ||= Supermajor 6th ||= 27/16, 46/27 ||
|| 17 || 971.429 || A^^/Bv ||= Subminor 7th ||= 7/4 ||
|| 17 || 971.429 || A^^/Bv || A# ||= Subminor 7th ||= 7/4 ||
|| 18 || 1028.571 || B ||= Supraminor 7th ||= 29/16, 9/5 ||
|| 18 || 1028.571 || B || Bb ||= Supraminor 7th ||= 29/16, 9/5 ||
|| 19 || 1085.714 || B^/Cvv ||= Major 7th ||= 15/8 ||
|| 19 || 1085.714 || B^/Cvv || B ||= Major 7th ||= 15/8 ||
|| 20 || 1142.857 || B^^/Cv ||= Supermajor 7th ||= 27/14, 29/15 ||
|| 20 || 1142.857 || B^^/Cv || B#/Cb ||= Supermajor 7th ||= 27/14, 29/15 ||
|| 21 || 1200 || C ||= Octave ||= 2/1 ||
|| 21 || 1200 || C || C ||= Octave ||= 2/1 ||


*based on treating 21-EDO as a 2.7.15.23.27.29 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible.
*based on treating 21-EDO as a 2.7.15.23.27.29 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible.
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==Moment-of-Symmetry Scales in 21-EDO:==  
==Moment-of-Symmetry Scales in 21-EDO:==  


Since 21-EDO contains sub-EDOs of 3 and 7, it contains no heptatonic MOS scales (other than 7-EDO) and a wealth of scales that repeat at a 1/3-octave period.  
Since 21-EDO contains sub-EDOs of 3 and 7, it contains no heptatonic MOS scales (other than 7-EDO) and a wealth of scales that repeat at a 1/3-octave period.
For 7-limit harmony (based on a chord of 0-7-12-17 approximating 4:5:6:7), using 1/3-octave period scales (i.e. those related to augmented temperament) yields the most harmonically-efficient scales. The 9-note 3L6s scale (related to Tcherpnin's scale in 12-TET) is an excellent example.
For 7-limit harmony (based on a chord of 0-7-12-17 approximating 4:5:6:7), using 1/3-octave period scales (i.e. those related to augmented temperament) yields the most harmonically-efficient scales. The 9-note 3L6s scale (related to Tcherpnin's scale in 12-TET) is an excellent example.


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&lt;strong&gt;Value&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Value&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Letter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7-EDO&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Notation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;D.-R. Name&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5L3s&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Notation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;D.-R. Interval&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Types&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Approximate&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Approximate&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;0&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C^/Dvv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C^/Dvv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;C#&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Subminor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Subminor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C^^/Dv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C^^/Dv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Db&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Minor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Minor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;171.429&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;171.429&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;D&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;D&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;D^/Evv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;D^/Evv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;D#&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supermajor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supermajor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;D^^/Ev&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;D^^/Ev&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Eb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Subminor 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Subminor 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;342.857&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;342.857&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;E&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;E&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;E&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;E^/Fvv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;E^/Fvv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;E#/Fb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Major 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Major 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;E^^/Fv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;E^^/Fv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;F&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Third-Fourth&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Third-Fourth&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;F&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;F&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;F#&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Acute 4th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Acute 4th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;F^/Gvv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;F^/Gvv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Gb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Narrow Tritone&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Narrow Tritone&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;F^^/Gv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;F^^/Gv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;G&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Wide Tritone&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Wide Tritone&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;G&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;G&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;G#&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Grave 5th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Grave 5th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;G^/Avv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;G^/Avv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Hb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Fifth-Sixth&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Fifth-Sixth&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;G^^/Av&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;G^^/Av&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;H&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Minor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Minor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;A&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;A&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;H#/Ab&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Neutral 6th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Neutral 6th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;A^/Bvv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;A^/Bvv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;A&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supermajor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supermajor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;A^^/Bv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;A^^/Bv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;A#&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Subminor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Subminor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;B&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;B&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Bb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supraminor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supraminor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;B^/Cvv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;B^/Cvv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;B&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Major 7th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Major 7th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;B^^/Cv&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;B^^/Cv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;B#/Cb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supermajor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;Supermajor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;1200&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;1200&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
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Since 21-EDO contains sub-EDOs of 3 and 7, it contains no heptatonic MOS scales (other than 7-EDO) and a wealth of scales that repeat at a 1/3-octave period. &lt;br /&gt;
Since 21-EDO contains sub-EDOs of 3 and 7, it contains no heptatonic MOS scales (other than 7-EDO) and a wealth of scales that repeat at a 1/3-octave period.&lt;br /&gt;
For 7-limit harmony (based on a chord of 0-7-12-17 approximating 4:5:6:7), using 1/3-octave period scales (i.e. those related to augmented temperament) yields the most harmonically-efficient scales. The 9-note 3L6s scale (related to Tcherpnin's scale in 12-TET) is an excellent example.&lt;br /&gt;
For 7-limit harmony (based on a chord of 0-7-12-17 approximating 4:5:6:7), using 1/3-octave period scales (i.e. those related to augmented temperament) yields the most harmonically-efficient scales. The 9-note 3L6s scale (related to Tcherpnin's scale in 12-TET) is an excellent example.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Sword, Ron. &amp;quot;Icosihenaphonic Scales for Guitar&amp;quot;. IAAA Press. 1st ed: July 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
  Sword, Ron. &amp;quot;Icosihenaphonic Scales for Guitar&amp;quot;. IAAA Press. 1st ed: July 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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