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== Definition ==
== Definition ==
A '''monzo''' is a way of notating a JI interval that allows us to express directly how any "composite" interval is represented in terms of those simpler prime intervals. They are typically written using the notation {{Monzo|a b c d e f ... }}, where the columns represent how the primes 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, etc, in that order, contribute to the interval's prime factorization, up to some [[Harmonic Limit|prime limit]].
A '''monzo''' is a way of notating a JI interval that allows us to express directly how any "composite" interval is represented in terms of those simpler prime intervals. They are typically written using the notation {{monzo|a b c d e f ... }}, where the columns represent how the primes 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, etc, in that order, contribute to the interval's prime factorization, up to some [[Harmonic Limit|prime limit]].


Monzos can be thought of as counterparts to [[vals]].
Monzos can be thought of as counterparts to [[vals]].
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== Examples ==
== Examples ==
For example, the interval 15/8 can be thought of as having <math>5⋅3</math> in the numerator, and <math>2⋅2⋅2</math> in the denominator. This can be compactly represented by the expression <math>2^{-3} \cdot 3^1 \cdot 5^1</math>, which is exactly equal to 15/8. We construct the monzo by taking the exponent from each prime, in order, and placing them within the {{Monzo| ... }} brackets, hence yielding {{Monzo|-3 1 1}}.  
For example, the interval 15/8 can be thought of as having <math>5⋅3</math> in the numerator, and <math>2⋅2⋅2</math> in the denominator. This can be compactly represented by the expression <math>2^{-3} \cdot 3^1 \cdot 5^1</math>, which is exactly equal to 15/8. We construct the monzo by taking the exponent from each prime, in order, and placing them within the {{monzo| ... }} brackets, hence yielding {{monzo|-3 1 1}}.  


:'''Practical hint:''' the monzo template helps you getting correct brackets ([[Template:Monzo|read more...]]).
:'''Practical hint:''' the monzo template helps you getting correct brackets ([[Template:Monzo|read more...]]).
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[3/2]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[3/2]]
| {{Monzo| -1 1 0 }}
| {{monzo| -1 1 0 }}
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[5/4]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[5/4]]
| {{Monzo| -2 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -2 0 1 }}
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[9/8]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[9/8]]
| {{Monzo| -3 2 0 }}
| {{monzo| -3 2 0 }}
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[81/80]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[81/80]]
| {{Monzo| -4 4 -1 }}
| {{monzo| -4 4 -1 }}
|}
|}


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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! | Ratio
! Ratio
! | Monzo
! Monzo
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/4]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/4]]
| {{Monzo| -2 0 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -2 0 0 1 }}
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/6]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/6]]
| {{Monzo| -1 -1 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -1 -1 0 1 }}
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/5]]
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/5]]
| {{Monzo| 0 0 -1 1 }}
| {{monzo| 0 0 -1 1 }}
|}
|}


== Relationship with vals ==
== Relationship with vals ==
''See also: [[Vals]], [[Keenan's explanation of vals]], [[Vals and Tuning Space]] (more mathematical)''
''See also: [[Vals]], [[Keenan's explanation of vals]], [[Vals and Tuning Space]] (more mathematical)''


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<math>(12⋅-4) + (19⋅4) + (28⋅-1) = 0</math>
<math>(12⋅-4) + (19⋅4) + (28⋅-1) = 0</math>


In this case, the val &lt; 12 19 28 | is the [[Patent_val|patent val]] for 12-equal, and | -4 4 -1 &gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &lt; 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 &gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.
In this case, the val {{val| 12 19 28 }} is the [[patent val]] for 12-equal, and {{monzo| -4 4 -1 }} is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &lt; 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 &gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.


'''In general: &lt; a b c | d e f &gt; = ad + be + cf'''
'''In general: &lt; a b c | d e f &gt; = ad + be + cf'''


[[Category:definition]]
[[Category:Definition]]
[[Category:intervals]]
[[Category:Intervals]]
[[Category:prime limit]]
[[Category:Prime limit]]
[[Category:theory]]
[[Category:Theory]]