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**16edo** is the [[equal division of the octave]] into sixteen narrow chromatic semitones each of 75 [[cent]]s exactly. It is not especially good at representing most low-integer musical intervals, but it has a [[7_4|7/4]] which is six cents sharp, and a [[5_4|5/4]] which is eleven cents flat. Four steps of it gives the 300 cent minor third interval identical to that of 12-edo, giving it four diminished seventh chords exactly like those of [[12edo]], and a diminished triad on each scale step.
**16edo** is the [[equal division of the octave]] into sixteen narrow chromatic semitones each of 75 [[cent]]s exactly. It is not especially good at representing most low-integer musical intervals, but it has a [[7_4|7/4]] which is six cents sharp, and a [[5_4|5/4]] which is eleven cents flat. Four steps of it gives the 300 cent minor third interval identical to that of 12-edo, giving it four diminished seventh chords exactly like those of [[12edo]], and a diminished triad on each scale step.
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[[http://www.armodue.com/ricerche.htm|Armodue]]: Italian pages of theory for 16-tone (esadekaphonic) system, including compositions.
[[http://www.armodue.com/ricerche.htm|Armodue]]: Italian pages of theory for 16-tone (esadekaphonic) system, including compositions.


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Translations of parts of the Armodue pages can be found [[Armodue|here]] on this wiki..
 
[[Armodue theory]] //(summary translation from the italian site//)
[[Armodue armonia|Armodue: basic elements of harmony]]
 


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&lt;strong&gt;16edo&lt;/strong&gt; is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/equal%20division%20of%20the%20octave"&gt;equal division of the octave&lt;/a&gt; into sixteen narrow chromatic semitones each of 75 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s exactly. It is not especially good at representing most low-integer musical intervals, but it has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; which is six cents sharp, and a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; which is eleven cents flat. Four steps of it gives the 300 cent minor third interval identical to that of 12-edo, giving it four diminished seventh chords exactly like those of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;, and a diminished triad on each scale step.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;16edo&lt;/strong&gt; is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/equal%20division%20of%20the%20octave"&gt;equal division of the octave&lt;/a&gt; into sixteen narrow chromatic semitones each of 75 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s exactly. It is not especially good at representing most low-integer musical intervals, but it has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; which is six cents sharp, and a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; which is eleven cents flat. Four steps of it gives the 300 cent minor third interval identical to that of 12-edo, giving it four diminished seventh chords exactly like those of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;, and a diminished triad on each scale step.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 16-tone, because of the 25 cent difference in the steps from 100 in 12-tone, a western &amp;quot;twelve tone ear&amp;quot; hears dissonance with more complexity and less familiarity than even &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24-tone&lt;/a&gt;, yet within a more manageable number of tones and a strange familiarity - the diminished family - making 16-edo a truly xenharmonic system.&lt;br /&gt;
In 16-tone, because of the 25 cent difference in the steps from 100 in 12-tone, a western &amp;quot;twelve tone ear&amp;quot; hears dissonance with more complexity and less familiarity than even &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24-tone&lt;/a&gt;, yet within a more manageable number of tones and a strange familiarity - the diminished family - making 16-edo a truly xenharmonic system.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19_16"&gt;19/16&lt;/a&gt;, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad. The interval between the 28th &amp;amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &amp;quot;narrow fifth&amp;quot;. Example on Goldsmith board: &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextRemoteImageRule:275:&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://www.ronsword.com/161928%20copy.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;height: 92px; width: 158px;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.ronsword.com/161928%20copy.jpg" alt="external image 161928%20copy.jpg" title="external image 161928%20copy.jpg" style="height: 92px; width: 158px;" /&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextRemoteImageRule:275 --&gt;Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.&lt;br /&gt;
If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19_16"&gt;19/16&lt;/a&gt;, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad. The interval between the 28th &amp;amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &amp;quot;narrow fifth&amp;quot;. Example on Goldsmith board: &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextRemoteImageRule:276:&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://www.ronsword.com/161928%20copy.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;height: 92px; width: 158px;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.ronsword.com/161928%20copy.jpg" alt="external image 161928%20copy.jpg" title="external image 161928%20copy.jpg" style="height: 92px; width: 158px;" /&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextRemoteImageRule:276 --&gt;Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 16-edo diatonic scales are dissonant because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. The septimal semi diminished fourth can be more desirable. Perhaps using Moment of Symmetry Scales an alternative temperament families like the &amp;quot;Anti-Diatonic&amp;quot; Mavila (which reverses step sizes of diatonic), Diminished, Happy, Rice, Grumpy, Mosh, Magic, Lemba, Cynder, and Decatonic can be more interesting and suitable:&lt;br /&gt;
In 16-edo diatonic scales are dissonant because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. The septimal semi diminished fourth can be more desirable. Perhaps using Moment of Symmetry Scales an alternative temperament families like the &amp;quot;Anti-Diatonic&amp;quot; Mavila (which reverses step sizes of diatonic), Diminished, Happy, Rice, Grumpy, Mosh, Magic, Lemba, Cynder, and Decatonic can be more interesting and suitable:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.armodue.com/ricerche.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Armodue&lt;/a&gt;: Italian pages of theory for 16-tone (esadekaphonic) system, including compositions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.armodue.com/ricerche.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Armodue&lt;/a&gt;: Italian pages of theory for 16-tone (esadekaphonic) system, including compositions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are translations of parts of the Armodue pages:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Armodue%20theory"&gt;Armodue theory&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;(summary translation from the italian site&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Armodue%20armonia"&gt;Armodue: basic elements of harmony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sword, Ronald. &amp;quot;Hexadecaphonic Scales for Guitar.&amp;quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: Feb, 2010. (superfourth tuning).&lt;br /&gt;
Sword, Ronald. &amp;quot;Hexadecaphonic Scales for Guitar.&amp;quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: Feb, 2010. (superfourth tuning).&lt;br /&gt;
Sword, Ronald. &amp;quot;Esadekaphonic Scales for Guitar.&amp;quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: April, 2009. (semi-diminished fourth tuning)&lt;br /&gt;
Sword, Ronald. &amp;quot;Esadekaphonic Scales for Guitar.&amp;quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: April, 2009. (semi-diminished fourth tuning)&lt;br /&gt;