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: C261.6 is major-centrism. D293 is the one real standard tuning. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 04:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

:: I understand that ''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(musical_note)#Middle_C In MIDI, Middle C is note number 60 which equates to C]'' and that this could be the reason some people tend to see "Middle C" as a possible center. Also the clefs typically used for Piano scores give this tone a certain dominance. I play the piano as well and had a lot of work to do to overcome my childish C-major centrism but I'd plead that '''a notation system should have the freedom to chose its central note'''. What I don't understand is that a ''notation'' system has to define the exact frequency for it's root ''note''. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 07:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

::: This topic can get toxic at some points. Well, 60 is not a special note in MIDI, yet the center of MIDI, between 63 (Eb) and 64 (E), ''can'' be interpreted as centering around C-G.

::: By suggesting D as the center, I mean it's a fact. The heptatonic scale has two inherent tuning centers that produce symmetry, currently surprisingly nicely signified by D, and betweem G and A. It's surprisingly nice cuz A and G are the first and last letters in the sequence, respectively, and D is right in the middle. There's a unity between tuning and notating. I can see it recognized in this community. Look at how they do the heptatonic porcupine notation: they typically place the one large step between G and A, so it's still centered around D.

::: Now to develop another notation system, as long as it's based on a scale, we will have such a center, whatever its signifier is, and we'll need the signifier-frequency form to tune it (or how do you tune it?). Do you need a particular frequency for a particular tuning? Probably not. You just take one frequency and tune everything, including the diatonic scale. So the choice is down to one of the frequencies in that scale. Which one? My answer is obvious. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 17:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

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 : C261.6 is major-centrism. D293 is the one real standard tuning. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 04:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 :: I understand that ''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(musical_note)#Middle_C In MIDI, Middle C is note number 60 which equates to C]'' and that this could be the reason some people tend to see "Middle C" as a possible center. Also the clefs typically used for Piano scores give this tone a certain dominance. I play the piano as well and had a lot of work to do to overcome my childish C-major centrism but I'd plead that '''a notation system should have the freedom to chose its central note'''. What I don't understand is that a ''notation'' system has to define the exact frequency for it's root ''note''. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 07:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
+::: This topic can get toxic at some points. Well, 60 is not a special note in MIDI, yet the center of MIDI, between 63 (Eb) and 64 (E), ''can'' be interpreted as centering around C-G.
+::: By suggesting D as the center, I mean it's a fact. The heptatonic scale has two inherent tuning centers that produce symmetry, currently surprisingly nicely signified by D, and betweem G and A. It's surprisingly nice cuz A and G are the first and last letters in the sequence, respectively, and D is right in the middle. There's a unity between tuning and notating. I can see it recognized in this community. Look at how they do the heptatonic porcupine notation: they typically place the one large step between G and A, so it's still centered around D.
+::: Now to develop another notation system, as long as it's based on a scale, we will have such a center, whatever its signifier is, and we'll need the signifier-frequency form to tune it (or how do you tune it?). Do you need a particular frequency for a particular tuning? Probably not. You just take one frequency and tune everything, including the diatonic scale. So the choice is down to one of the frequencies in that scale. Which one? My answer is obvious. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 17:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)