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=Wuerschmidt= | =Wuerschmidt= | ||
The [[5-limit]] parent comma for the wuerschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Wuerschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[monzo]] is |17 1 -8>, and flipping that yields <<8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the [[generator]] is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Wuerschmift comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the [[minimax tuning]]. Wuerschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note [[MOS]] all possibilities. | The [[xenharmonic/5-limit|5-limit]] parent comma for the wuerschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Wuerschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[xenharmonic/monzo|monzo]] is |17 1 -8>, and flipping that yields <<8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the [[xenharmonic/generator|generator]] is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Wuerschmift comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the [[xenharmonic/minimax tuning|minimax tuning]]. Wuerschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note [[xenharmonic/MOS|MOS]] all possibilities. | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.799 | [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.799 | ||
Map: [<1 7 3|, <0 -8 -1|] | Map: [<1 7 3|, <0 -8 -1|] | ||
EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[34edo|34]], [[65edo|65]], [[99edo|99]], [[164edo|164]], [[721edo|721c]], [[885edo|885c]] | EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]], [[xenharmonic/164edo|164]], [[xenharmonic/721edo|721c]], [[xenharmonic/885edo|885c]] | ||
==Seven limit children== | ==Seven limit children== | ||
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1>, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1>, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1> and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2>. | The second comma of the [[xenharmonic/Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1>, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1>, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1> and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2>. | ||
=Wurschmidt= | =Wurschmidt= | ||
Wurschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[31edo]] or [[127edo]] can be used as tunings. Wurschmidt has <<8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version <<8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. [[127edo]] is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. | Wurschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[xenharmonic/31edo|31edo]] or [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] can be used as tunings. Wurschmidt has <<8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version <<8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. | ||
Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575 | Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.383 | [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.383 | ||
Map: [<1 7 3 15|, <0 -8 -1 -18|] | Map: [<1 7 3 15|, <0 -8 -1 -18|] | ||
EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[96edo|96]], [[127edo|127]], [[285edo|28bd]], [[412edo|412bd]] | EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/96edo|96]], [[xenharmonic/127edo|127]], [[xenharmonic/285edo|28bd]], [[xenharmonic/412edo|412bd]] | ||
Badness: 0.0508 | Badness: 0.0508 | ||
==11-limit== | ==11-limit== | ||
Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242 | Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242 | ||
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=Worschmidt= | =Worschmidt= | ||
Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[31edo]], [[34edo]], or [[127edo]] as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is <127 201 295 356| and not <127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is <<8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore. | Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[xenharmonic/31edo|31edo]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34edo]], or [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is <127 201 295 356| and not <127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is <<8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore. | ||
Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768 | Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.392 | [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.392 | ||
Map: [<1 7 3 -6|, <0 -8 -1 13|] | Map: [<1 7 3 -6|, <0 -8 -1 13|] | ||
EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[65edo|65]], [[96edo|96d]], [[127edo|127d]] | EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/96edo|96d]], [[xenharmonic/127edo|127d]] | ||
Badness: 0.0646 | Badness: 0.0646 | ||
==11-limit== | ==11-limit== | ||
Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384 | Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384 | ||
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=Whirrschmidt= | =Whirrschmidt= | ||
[[99edo]] is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with <<8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie. | [[xenharmonic/99edo|99edo]] is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with <<8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie. | ||
Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625 | Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.881 | [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.881 | ||
Map: [<1 7 3 38|, <0 -8 -1 -52|] | Map: [<1 7 3 38|, <0 -8 -1 -52|] | ||
EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[34edo|34]], [[ | EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]] | ||
=Hemiwuerschmidt= | =Hemiwuerschmidt= | ||
Hemiwuerschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. [[68edo]], [[99edo]] and [[130edo]] can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwuerschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, <<16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28... | Hemiwuerschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. [[xenharmonic/68edo|68edo]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99edo]] and [[xenharmonic/130edo|130edo]] can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwuerschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, <<16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28... | ||
Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125 | Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.898 | [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.898 | ||
Map: [<1 15 4 7|, <0 -16 -2 -5|] | Map: [<1 15 4 7|, <0 -16 -2 -5|] | ||
<<16 2 5 -34 -37 6|| | <<16 2 5 -34 -37 6|| | ||
EDOs: [[6edo|6]], [[31edo|31]], [[37edo|37]], [[68edo|68]], [[99edo|99]], [[229edo|229]], [[328edo|328]], [[557edo|557c]], [[885edo|885c]] | EDOs: [[xenharmonic/6edo|6]], [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/37edo|37]], [[xenharmonic/68edo|68]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]], [[xenharmonic/229edo|229]], [[xenharmonic/328edo|328]], [[xenharmonic/557edo|557c]], [[xenharmonic/885edo|885c]] | ||
Badness: 0.0203 | Badness: 0.0203 | ||
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Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125 | Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.840 | [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.840 | ||
Map: [<1 15 4 7 37|, <0 -16 -2 -5 -40|] | Map: [<1 15 4 7 37|, <0 -16 -2 -5 -40|] | ||
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<span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span> | <span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span> | ||
=Relationships to other temperaments= | =Relationships to other temperaments= | ||
2-Wuerschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Wuerschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to [[skwares]] as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</pre></div> | 2-Wuerschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Wuerschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to [[xenharmonic/skwares|skwares]] as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</pre></div> | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Würschmidt family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:20:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:20 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:21: --><a href="#Wuerschmidt">Wuerschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:21 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:22 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:23: --> | <a href="#Wurschmidt">Wurschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:23 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:24: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:24 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:25: --> | <a href="#Worschmidt">Worschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:25 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:26: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:26 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:27: --> | <a href="#Whirrschmidt">Whirrschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:27 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:28: --> | <a href="#Hemiwuerschmidt">Hemiwuerschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:28 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:29: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:29 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:30: --> | <a href="#Relationships to other temperaments">Relationships to other temperaments</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:30 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:31: --> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Würschmidt family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:20:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:20 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:21: --><a href="#Wuerschmidt">Wuerschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:21 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:22 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:23: --> | <a href="#Wurschmidt">Wurschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:23 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:24: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:24 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:25: --> | <a href="#Worschmidt">Worschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:25 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:26: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:26 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:27: --> | <a href="#Whirrschmidt">Whirrschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:27 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:28: --> | <a href="#Hemiwuerschmidt">Hemiwuerschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:28 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:29: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:29 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:30: --> | <a href="#Relationships to other temperaments">Relationships to other temperaments</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:30 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:31: --> | ||
<!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:31 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Wuerschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Wuerschmidt</h1> | <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:31 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Wuerschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Wuerschmidt</h1> | ||
The <a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit">5-limit</a> parent comma for the wuerschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Wuerschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its <a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo">monzo</a> is |17 1 -8&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the <a class="wiki_link" href="/generator">generator</a> is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Wuerschmift comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/minimax%20tuning">minimax tuning</a>. Wuerschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOS">MOS</a> all possibilities.<br /> | The <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/5-limit">5-limit</a> parent comma for the wuerschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Wuerschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/monzo">monzo</a> is |17 1 -8&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/generator">generator</a> is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Wuerschmift comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/minimax%20tuning">minimax tuning</a>. Wuerschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/MOS">MOS</a> all possibilities.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.799<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.799<br /> | ||
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Map: [&lt;1 7 3|, &lt;0 -8 -1|]<br /> | Map: [&lt;1 7 3|, &lt;0 -8 -1|]<br /> | ||
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EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/164edo">164</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/721edo">721c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/885edo">885c</a><br /> | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/164edo">164</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/721edo">721c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/885edo">885c</a><br /> | ||
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The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1&gt;, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1&gt;, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1&gt; and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2&gt;.<br /> | The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1&gt;, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1&gt;, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1&gt; and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2&gt;.<br /> | ||
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Wurschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/127edo">127edo</a> can be used as tunings. Wurschmidt has &lt;&lt;8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version &lt;&lt;8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. <a class="wiki_link" href="/127edo">127edo</a> is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175.<br /> | Wurschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> can be used as tunings. Wurschmidt has &lt;&lt;8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version &lt;&lt;8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575<br /> | Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.383<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.383<br /> | ||
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Map: [&lt;1 7 3 15|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -18|]<br /> | Map: [&lt;1 7 3 15|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -18|]<br /> | ||
EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/96edo">96</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/127edo">127</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/285edo">28bd</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/412edo">412bd</a><br /> | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/96edo">96</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/285edo">28bd</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/412edo">412bd</a><br /> | ||
Badness: 0.0508<br /> | Badness: 0.0508<br /> | ||
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Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242<br /> | Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242<br /> | ||
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POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.447<br /> | POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.447<br /> | ||
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Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a>, or <a class="wiki_link" href="/127edo">127edo</a> as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is &lt;127 201 295 356| and not &lt;127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is &lt;&lt;8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore.<br /> | Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34edo</a>, or <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is &lt;127 201 295 356| and not &lt;127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is &lt;&lt;8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.392<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.392<br /> | ||
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Map: [&lt;1 7 3 -6|, &lt;0 -8 -1 13|]<br /> | Map: [&lt;1 7 3 -6|, &lt;0 -8 -1 13|]<br /> | ||
EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/96edo">96d</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/127edo">127d</a><br /> | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/96edo">96d</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127d</a><br /> | ||
Badness: 0.0646<br /> | Badness: 0.0646<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384<br /> | ||
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POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.407<br /> | POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.407<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99edo</a> is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with &lt;&lt;8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie.<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99edo</a> is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with &lt;&lt;8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625<br /> | Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.881<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.881<br /> | ||
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Map: [&lt;1 7 3 38|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -52|]<br /> | Map: [&lt;1 7 3 38|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -52|]<br /> | ||
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EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/ | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a><br /> | ||
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Hemiwuerschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/130edo">130edo</a> can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwuerschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, &lt;&lt;16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28...<br /> | Hemiwuerschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/68edo">68edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/130edo">130edo</a> can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwuerschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, &lt;&lt;16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28...<br /> | ||
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Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125<br /> | Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.898<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.898<br /> | ||
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Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5|]<br /> | Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5|]<br /> | ||
&lt;&lt;16 2 5 -34 -37 6||<br /> | &lt;&lt;16 2 5 -34 -37 6||<br /> | ||
EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/6edo">6</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo">37</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/229edo">229</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/328edo">328</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/557edo">557c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/885edo">885c</a><br /> | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/6edo">6</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/37edo">37</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/68edo">68</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/229edo">229</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/328edo">328</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/557edo">557c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/885edo">885c</a><br /> | ||
Badness: 0.0203<br /> | Badness: 0.0203<br /> | ||
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Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125<br /> | Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.840<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.840<br /> | ||
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Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 37|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -40|]<br /> | Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 37|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -40|]<br /> | ||
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<span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span><br /> | <span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span><br /> | ||
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2-Wuerschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Wuerschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to <a class="wiki_link" href="/skwares">skwares</a> as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</body></html></pre></div> | 2-Wuerschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Wuerschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/skwares">skwares</a> as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</body></html></pre></div> |
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[[toc|flat]] =Wuerschmidt= The [[xenharmonic/5-limit|5-limit]] parent comma for the wuerschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Wuerschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[xenharmonic/monzo|monzo]] is |17 1 -8>, and flipping that yields <<8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the [[xenharmonic/generator|generator]] is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Wuerschmift comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the [[xenharmonic/minimax tuning|minimax tuning]]. Wuerschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note [[xenharmonic/MOS|MOS]] all possibilities. [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.799 Map: [<1 7 3|, <0 -8 -1|] EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]], [[xenharmonic/164edo|164]], [[xenharmonic/721edo|721c]], [[xenharmonic/885edo|885c]] ==Seven limit children== The second comma of the [[xenharmonic/Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1>, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1>, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1> and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2>. =Wurschmidt= Wurschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[xenharmonic/31edo|31edo]] or [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] can be used as tunings. Wurschmidt has <<8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version <<8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575 [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.383 Map: [<1 7 3 15|, <0 -8 -1 -18|] EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/96edo|96]], [[xenharmonic/127edo|127]], [[xenharmonic/285edo|28bd]], [[xenharmonic/412edo|412bd]] Badness: 0.0508 ==11-limit== Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242 POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.447 Map: [<1 7 3 15 17|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20|] EDOs: 31, 65d, 96, 127, 223d Badness: 0.0244 =Worschmidt= Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[xenharmonic/31edo|31edo]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34edo]], or [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is <127 201 295 356| and not <127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is <<8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore. Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768 [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.392 Map: [<1 7 3 -6|, <0 -8 -1 13|] EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/96edo|96d]], [[xenharmonic/127edo|127d]] Badness: 0.0646 ==11-limit== Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384 POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.407 Map: [<1 7 3 -6 17|, <0 -8 -1 13 -20|] EDOs: 31, 65, 96d, 127d Badness: 0.0334 =Whirrschmidt= [[xenharmonic/99edo|99edo]] is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with <<8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie. Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625 [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.881 Map: [<1 7 3 38|, <0 -8 -1 -52|] EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]] =Hemiwuerschmidt= Hemiwuerschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. [[xenharmonic/68edo|68edo]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99edo]] and [[xenharmonic/130edo|130edo]] can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwuerschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, <<16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28... Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125 [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.898 Map: [<1 15 4 7|, <0 -16 -2 -5|] <<16 2 5 -34 -37 6|| EDOs: [[xenharmonic/6edo|6]], [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/37edo|37]], [[xenharmonic/68edo|68]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]], [[xenharmonic/229edo|229]], [[xenharmonic/328edo|328]], [[xenharmonic/557edo|557c]], [[xenharmonic/885edo|885c]] Badness: 0.0203 ==11-limit== Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125 [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.840 Map: [<1 15 4 7 37|, <0 -16 -2 -5 -40|] EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 650ce, 811ce Badness: 0.0211 <span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span> =Relationships to other temperaments= 2-Wuerschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Wuerschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to [[xenharmonic/skwares|skwares]] as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.
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<html><head><title>Würschmidt family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:20:<img id="wikitext@@toc@@flat" class="WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat" title="Table of Contents" src="/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&h=16"/> --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:20 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:21: --><a href="#Wuerschmidt">Wuerschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:21 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:22 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:23: --> | <a href="#Wurschmidt">Wurschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:23 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:24: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:24 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:25: --> | <a href="#Worschmidt">Worschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:25 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:26: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:26 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:27: --> | <a href="#Whirrschmidt">Whirrschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:27 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:28: --> | <a href="#Hemiwuerschmidt">Hemiwuerschmidt</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:28 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:29: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:29 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:30: --> | <a href="#Relationships to other temperaments">Relationships to other temperaments</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:30 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:31: --> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:31 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h1> --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Wuerschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Wuerschmidt</h1> The <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/5-limit">5-limit</a> parent comma for the wuerschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Wuerschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/monzo">monzo</a> is |17 1 -8>, and flipping that yields <<8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/generator">generator</a> is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Wuerschmift comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/minimax%20tuning">minimax tuning</a>. Wuerschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/MOS">MOS</a> all possibilities.<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.799<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 7 3|, <0 -8 -1|]<br /> <br /> EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/164edo">164</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/721edo">721c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/885edo">885c</a><br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h2> --><h2 id="toc1"><a name="Wuerschmidt-Seven limit children"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Seven limit children</h2> The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1>, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1>, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1> and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2>.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h1> --><h1 id="toc2"><a name="Wurschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Wurschmidt</h1> Wurschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> can be used as tunings. Wurschmidt has <<8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version <<8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175.<br /> <br /> Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.383<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 7 3 15|, <0 -8 -1 -18|]<br /> EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/96edo">96</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/285edo">28bd</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/412edo">412bd</a><br /> Badness: 0.0508<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:<h2> --><h2 id="toc3"><a name="Wurschmidt-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->11-limit</h2> Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242<br /> <br /> POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.447<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 7 3 15 17|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20|]<br /> EDOs: 31, 65d, 96, 127, 223d<br /> Badness: 0.0244<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:<h1> --><h1 id="toc4"><a name="Worschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 -->Worschmidt</h1> Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34edo</a>, or <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is <127 201 295 356| and not <127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is <<8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore.<br /> <br /> Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.392<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 7 3 -6|, <0 -8 -1 13|]<br /> EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/96edo">96d</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127d</a><br /> Badness: 0.0646<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:<h2> --><h2 id="toc5"><a name="Worschmidt-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 -->11-limit</h2> Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384<br /> <br /> POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.407<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 7 3 -6 17|, <0 -8 -1 13 -20|]<br /> EDOs: 31, 65, 96d, 127d<br /> Badness: 0.0334<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:12:<h1> --><h1 id="toc6"><a name="Whirrschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:12 -->Whirrschmidt</h1> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99edo</a> is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with <<8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie.<br /> <br /> Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.881<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 7 3 38|, <0 -8 -1 -52|]<br /> <br /> EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a><br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:14:<h1> --><h1 id="toc7"><a name="Hemiwuerschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:14 -->Hemiwuerschmidt</h1> Hemiwuerschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/68edo">68edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/130edo">130edo</a> can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwuerschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, <<16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28...<br /> <br /> Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.898<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 15 4 7|, <0 -16 -2 -5|]<br /> <<16 2 5 -34 -37 6||<br /> EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/6edo">6</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/37edo">37</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/68edo">68</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/229edo">229</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/328edo">328</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/557edo">557c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/885edo">885c</a><br /> Badness: 0.0203<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:<h2> --><h2 id="toc8"><a name="Hemiwuerschmidt-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 -->11-limit</h2> Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.840<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 15 4 7 37|, <0 -16 -2 -5 -40|]<br /> EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 650ce, 811ce<br /> Badness: 0.0211<br /> <span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span><br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:<h1> --><h1 id="toc9"><a name="Relationships to other temperaments"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 -->Relationships to other temperaments</h1> 2-Wuerschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Wuerschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/skwares">skwares</a> as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</body></html>