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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">==Yarman temperament==
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[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a MOS of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:
[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a [[MOSScales|MOS]] of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:


[&lt;1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5|, &lt;0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60|]
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The first mapping may be called 79&amp;159 in terms of patent vals, and the second 80&amp;159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible.
The first mapping may be called 79&amp;159 in terms of [[Patent val|patent vals]], and the second 80&amp;159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible.


==Karadeniz temperament==
==Karadeniz temperament==  
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a "hemigarabaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a "hemigarabaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:


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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Ozan%20Yarman"&gt;Ozan Yarman&lt;/a&gt; has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a MOS of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Ozan%20Yarman"&gt;Ozan Yarman&lt;/a&gt; has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;MOS&lt;/a&gt; of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:&lt;br /&gt;
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The first mapping may be called 79&amp;amp;159 in terms of patent vals, and the second 80&amp;amp;159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible.&lt;br /&gt;
The first mapping may be called 79&amp;amp;159 in terms of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Patent%20val"&gt;patent vals&lt;/a&gt;, and the second 80&amp;amp;159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc1"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Karadeniz temperament"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 --&gt;Karadeniz temperament&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc1"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Karadeniz temperament"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 --&gt;Karadeniz temperament&lt;/h2&gt;
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a &amp;quot;hemigarabaldi&amp;quot; type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:&lt;br /&gt;
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a &amp;quot;hemigarabaldi&amp;quot; type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -16 -28 5 40 -30 -50 1 56 -20 67 152 111 216 120||&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -16 -28 5 40 -30 -50 1 56 -20 67 152 111 216 120||&lt;br /&gt;