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The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the [[qanun]] (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with "mandals/orabs").
The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the [[qanun]] (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with "mandals/orabs").


The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside).
The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside). Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.
Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.


The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.
The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.
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XXX || 5/4 || 81/64 ||
XXX || 5/4 || 81/64 ||
|| 8192/6581 || XXX || 25088/19683 || 104/81 || XXX || 176/135 || 320/243 || 4/3 ||
|| 8192/6581 || XXX || 25088/19683 || 104/81 || XXX || 176/135 || 320/243 || 4/3 ||
||   ||   ||   ||   ||   ||   ||   ||   ||
|| XXX || 27/20 || 351/258 || XXX || 243/176 || 891/640 || 45/32 || 729/512 ||
 
XXX more coming soon


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  The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun"&gt;qanun&lt;/a&gt; (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &amp;quot;mandals/orabs&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
  The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun"&gt;qanun&lt;/a&gt; (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &amp;quot;mandals/orabs&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside).&lt;br /&gt;
The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside). Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.&lt;br /&gt;
Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.&lt;br /&gt;
The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;351/258&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;243/176&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;891/640&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;45/32&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;729/512&lt;br /&gt;
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<span style="font-size: 150%;">**Tuning systems for the qanun**</span>
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss/Jacques Dudon
[[toc]]
=Explanation= 
The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the [[qanun]] (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with "mandals/orabs").

The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside). Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.

The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.

Any given configuration of mandal/orab positions, resulting in a certain set of pitches that can be played at a given time
(base for a maqam tetrachord) is represented by a choice of one cell in each row.

=Older systems= 
==First system J.J.Weiss== 
Inequal subdivision of the [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]] into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:
* Subdivision into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma.
* Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).
* 65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.

This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.
Luthier: Ejder Gulec

Interval Table (cents):
|| 0 || 22 || 35 || 48 || 60 || 76 || 92 || 114 ||
|| 90 || 112 || 125 || 138 || 150 || 166 || 182 || 204 ||
|| 294 || 316 || 330 || 342 || 354 || 370 || 386 || 408 ||
|| 384 || 406 || 420 || 432 || 444 || 460 || 476 || 498 ||
|| 498 || 520 || 533 || 546 || 558 || 574 || 590 || 612 ||

Approximated just intervals (ascending, descending):
|| 1/1 || 81/80 || 49/48 || 1053/1024 || 729/704 || 2673/2560 || 135/128 || 2187/2048 ||
|| 256/243 || 16/15 || 784/729, 128/119, 43/40 (asc.)
320/297 (desc.) || 13/12 (asc.)
88/81 (desc.) || 12/11 (asc.)
128/117 (desc.) || 11/10, 208/189 (asc.)
54/49 (desc.) || 10/9 || 9/8 ||
|| 32/27 || 6/5 || 98/81 (asc.)
40/33 (desc.) || 39/32 (asc.)
XXX || 27/22 (asc.)
XXX || 99/80, 26/21 (asc.)
XXX || 5/4 || 81/64 ||
|| 8192/6581 || XXX || 25088/19683 || 104/81 || XXX || 176/135 || 320/243 || 4/3 ||
|| XXX || 27/20 || 351/258 || XXX || 243/176 || 891/640 || 45/32 || 729/512 ||

==Older system, variant== 
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=Newer systems= 

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<html><head><title>tuning systems for qanun</title></head><body><span style="font-size: 150%;"><strong>Tuning systems for the qanun</strong></span><br />
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss/Jacques Dudon<br />
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<!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:16 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Explanation"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Explanation</h1>
 The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun">qanun</a> (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &quot;mandals/orabs&quot;).<br />
<br />
The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside). Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.<br />
<br />
The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.<br />
<br />
Any given configuration of mandal/orab positions, resulting in a certain set of pitches that can be played at a given time<br />
(base for a maqam tetrachord) is represented by a choice of one cell in each row.<br />
<br />
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 Inequal subdivision of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048">apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)</a> into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:<br />
<ul><li>Subdivision into one <a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80">syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)</a>, one <a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24">Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)</a> and another syntonic comma.</li><li>Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).</li><li>65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.</li></ul><br />
This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.<br />
Luthier: Ejder Gulec<br />
<br />
Interval Table (cents):<br />


<table class="wiki_table">
    <tr>
        <td>0<br />
</td>
        <td>22<br />
</td>
        <td>35<br />
</td>
        <td>48<br />
</td>
        <td>60<br />
</td>
        <td>76<br />
</td>
        <td>92<br />
</td>
        <td>114<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>90<br />
</td>
        <td>112<br />
</td>
        <td>125<br />
</td>
        <td>138<br />
</td>
        <td>150<br />
</td>
        <td>166<br />
</td>
        <td>182<br />
</td>
        <td>204<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>294<br />
</td>
        <td>316<br />
</td>
        <td>330<br />
</td>
        <td>342<br />
</td>
        <td>354<br />
</td>
        <td>370<br />
</td>
        <td>386<br />
</td>
        <td>408<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>384<br />
</td>
        <td>406<br />
</td>
        <td>420<br />
</td>
        <td>432<br />
</td>
        <td>444<br />
</td>
        <td>460<br />
</td>
        <td>476<br />
</td>
        <td>498<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>498<br />
</td>
        <td>520<br />
</td>
        <td>533<br />
</td>
        <td>546<br />
</td>
        <td>558<br />
</td>
        <td>574<br />
</td>
        <td>590<br />
</td>
        <td>612<br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

<br />
Approximated just intervals (ascending, descending):<br />


<table class="wiki_table">
    <tr>
        <td>1/1<br />
</td>
        <td>81/80<br />
</td>
        <td>49/48<br />
</td>
        <td>1053/1024<br />
</td>
        <td>729/704<br />
</td>
        <td>2673/2560<br />
</td>
        <td>135/128<br />
</td>
        <td>2187/2048<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>256/243<br />
</td>
        <td>16/15<br />
</td>
        <td>784/729, 128/119, 43/40 (asc.)<br />
320/297 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>13/12 (asc.)<br />
88/81 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>12/11 (asc.)<br />
128/117 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>11/10, 208/189 (asc.)<br />
54/49 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>10/9<br />
</td>
        <td>9/8<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>32/27<br />
</td>
        <td>6/5<br />
</td>
        <td>98/81 (asc.)<br />
40/33 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>39/32 (asc.)<br />
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</td>
        <td>27/22 (asc.)<br />
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</td>
        <td>99/80, 26/21 (asc.)<br />
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</td>
        <td>5/4<br />
</td>
        <td>81/64<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>8192/6581<br />
</td>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>25088/19683<br />
</td>
        <td>104/81<br />
</td>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>176/135<br />
</td>
        <td>320/243<br />
</td>
        <td>4/3<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>27/20<br />
</td>
        <td>351/258<br />
</td>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>243/176<br />
</td>
        <td>891/640<br />
</td>
        <td>45/32<br />
</td>
        <td>729/512<br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

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