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We can extend the Lp norm on monzos to a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normed_vector_space|vector space norm]] on [[Monzos and Interval Space|interval space]], thereby defining the real normed interval space Lp. This space has a normed subspace generated by monzos belonging to the just intonation group G, which in the case where G is a full p-limit will be the whole of Lp but otherwise might not be; this we call G-interval space. The dual space to G-interval space is G-tuning space, and on this we may define a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_norm|dual norm]]. If r1, r2, ... rn are a set of generators for G, which in particular could be a normal list and so define [[Smonzos and Svals|smonzos]] for G, then corresponding generators for the dual space can in particular be the sval generators. On this standard basis for G-tuning space we can express the dual norm canonically as the G-sval norm. If [r1 r2 ... rn] is the normal G generator list, then <cents(r1) cents(r2) ... cents(rn)| is a point, in unweighted coordinates, in G-tuning space, and the nearest point to it under the G-sval norm on the subspace of tunings of some abstract G-temperament S, meaning svals in the null space of its commas, is precisely the Lp tuning Lp(S).</pre></div> | We can extend the Lp norm on monzos to a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normed_vector_space|vector space norm]] on [[Monzos and Interval Space|interval space]], thereby defining the real normed interval space Lp. This space has a normed subspace generated by monzos belonging to the just intonation group G, which in the case where G is a full p-limit will be the whole of Lp but otherwise might not be; this we call G-interval space. The dual space to G-interval space is G-tuning space, and on this we may define a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_norm|dual norm]], which is the same as the PEps(T) previously defined. If r1, r2, ... rn are a set of generators for G, which in particular could be a normal list and so define [[Smonzos and Svals|smonzos]] for G, then corresponding generators for the dual space can in particular be the sval generators. On this standard basis for G-tuning space we can express the dual norm canonically as the G-sval norm. If [r1 r2 ... rn] is the normal G generator list, then <cents(r1) cents(r2) ... cents(rn)| is a point, in unweighted coordinates, in G-tuning space, and the nearest point to it under the G-sval norm on the subspace of tunings of some abstract G-temperament S, meaning svals in the null space of its commas, is precisely the Lp tuning Lp(S).</pre></div> | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Tp tuning</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:6:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:6 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:7: --><a href="#Definition">Definition</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:7 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:8: --> | <a href="#Dual norm">Dual norm</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:8 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:9: --> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Tp tuning</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:6:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:6 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:7: --><a href="#Definition">Definition</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:7 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:8: --> | <a href="#Dual norm">Dual norm</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:8 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:9: --> | ||
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We can extend the Lp norm on monzos to a <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normed_vector_space" rel="nofollow">vector space norm</a> on <a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space">interval space</a>, thereby defining the real normed interval space Lp. This space has a normed subspace generated by monzos belonging to the just intonation group G, which in the case where G is a full p-limit will be the whole of Lp but otherwise might not be; this we call G-interval space. The dual space to G-interval space is G-tuning space, and on this we may define a <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_norm" rel="nofollow">dual norm</a>. If r1, r2, ... rn are a set of generators for G, which in particular could be a normal list and so define <a class="wiki_link" href="/Smonzos%20and%20Svals">smonzos</a> for G, then corresponding generators for the dual space can in particular be the sval generators. On this standard basis for G-tuning space we can express the dual norm canonically as the G-sval norm. If [r1 r2 ... rn] is the normal G generator list, then &lt;cents(r1) cents(r2) ... cents(rn)| is a point, in unweighted coordinates, in G-tuning space, and the nearest point to it under the G-sval norm on the subspace of tunings of some abstract G-temperament S, meaning svals in the null space of its commas, is precisely the Lp tuning Lp(S).</body></html></pre></div> | We can extend the Lp norm on monzos to a <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normed_vector_space" rel="nofollow">vector space norm</a> on <a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space">interval space</a>, thereby defining the real normed interval space Lp. This space has a normed subspace generated by monzos belonging to the just intonation group G, which in the case where G is a full p-limit will be the whole of Lp but otherwise might not be; this we call G-interval space. The dual space to G-interval space is G-tuning space, and on this we may define a <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_norm" rel="nofollow">dual norm</a>, which is the same as the PEps(T) previously defined. If r1, r2, ... rn are a set of generators for G, which in particular could be a normal list and so define <a class="wiki_link" href="/Smonzos%20and%20Svals">smonzos</a> for G, then corresponding generators for the dual space can in particular be the sval generators. On this standard basis for G-tuning space we can express the dual norm canonically as the G-sval norm. If [r1 r2 ... rn] is the normal G generator list, then &lt;cents(r1) cents(r2) ... cents(rn)| is a point, in unweighted coordinates, in G-tuning space, and the nearest point to it under the G-sval norm on the subspace of tunings of some abstract G-temperament S, meaning svals in the null space of its commas, is precisely the Lp tuning Lp(S).</body></html></pre></div> | ||