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EDOs: 27, 61, 88bc, 115bc
EDOs: 27, 61, 88bc, 115bc
Badness: 0.0705
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==11-limit==
Commas: 56/55, 100/99, 243/242
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 177.413
Map: [&lt;1 1 1 0 2|, &lt;0 4 9 19 10|]
EDOs: 27e, 34, 61e
Badness: 0.0376


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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Tetracot family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:36:&amp;lt;img id=&amp;quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;Table of Contents&amp;quot; src=&amp;quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;amp;h=16&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:36 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:37: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:37 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:38: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:38 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:39: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Monkey"&gt;Monkey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:39 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:40: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:40 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:41: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:41 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:42: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Bunya"&gt;Bunya&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:42 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:43: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:43 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:44: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:44 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:45: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Modus"&gt;Modus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:45 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:46: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:46 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:47: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:47 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:48: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Ponens"&gt;Ponens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:48 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:49: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:49 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:50: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Wollemia"&gt;Wollemia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:50 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:51: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:51 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:52: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Octacot"&gt;Octacot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:52 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:53: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:53 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:54: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:54 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:55: --&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:52 --&gt;The parent of the &lt;strong&gt;tetracot family&lt;/strong&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;tetracot&lt;/strong&gt;, the 5-limit temperament &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out"&gt;tempering out&lt;/a&gt; 20000/19683 = |5 -9 4&amp;gt;, the minimal diesis or tetracot comma. The dual of this comma is the wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 9 5||, which tells us 10/9 is a generator, and that four of them give 3/2. In fact, (10/9)^4 = 20000/19683 * 3/2. We also have (10/9)^9 = (20000/19683)^2 * 5/2. From this it is evident we should flatten the generator a bit, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; does this and makes for a recommendable tuning. Another possibility is to use (5/2)^(1/9) for a generator. The 13-note MOS gives enough space for eight triads, with the 20-note MOS supplying many more.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:55 --&gt;The parent of the &lt;strong&gt;tetracot family&lt;/strong&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;tetracot&lt;/strong&gt;, the 5-limit temperament &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out"&gt;tempering out&lt;/a&gt; 20000/19683 = |5 -9 4&amp;gt;, the minimal diesis or tetracot comma. The dual of this comma is the wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 9 5||, which tells us 10/9 is a generator, and that four of them give 3/2. In fact, (10/9)^4 = 20000/19683 * 3/2. We also have (10/9)^9 = (20000/19683)^2 * 5/2. From this it is evident we should flatten the generator a bit, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; does this and makes for a recommendable tuning. Another possibility is to use (5/2)^(1/9) for a generator. The 13-note MOS gives enough space for eight triads, with the 20-note MOS supplying many more.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 176.160&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 176.160&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0705&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0705&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 56/55, 100/99, 243/242&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 177.413&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 1 1 0 2|, &amp;lt;0 4 9 19 10|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 27e, 34, 61e&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0376&lt;br /&gt;
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  Octacot cuts the Gordian knot of deciding between the monkey and bunya mappings for 7 by cutting the generator in half and splitting the difference. It adds 245/243 to the normal comma list, and also tempers out 2401/2400. It has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;8 18 11 10 -5 -25|| and may also be described as 41&amp;amp;68. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/109edo"&gt;109edo&lt;/a&gt; can be used as tunings, as can (5/2)^(1/18), which gives just major thirds. Another tuning is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/150edo"&gt;150edo&lt;/a&gt;, which has a generator, 11/150, of exactly 88 cents. This relates octacot to the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/88cET"&gt;88cET&lt;/a&gt; non-octave temperament, which like &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Carlos%20Alpha"&gt;Carlos Alpha&lt;/a&gt; arguably makes more sense viewed as part of a rank two temperament with octaves rather than rank one without them.&lt;br /&gt;
  Octacot cuts the Gordian knot of deciding between the monkey and bunya mappings for 7 by cutting the generator in half and splitting the difference. It adds 245/243 to the normal comma list, and also tempers out 2401/2400. It has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;8 18 11 10 -5 -25|| and may also be described as 41&amp;amp;68. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/109edo"&gt;109edo&lt;/a&gt; can be used as tunings, as can (5/2)^(1/18), which gives just major thirds. Another tuning is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/150edo"&gt;150edo&lt;/a&gt;, which has a generator, 11/150, of exactly 88 cents. This relates octacot to the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/88cET"&gt;88cET&lt;/a&gt; non-octave temperament, which like &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Carlos%20Alpha"&gt;Carlos Alpha&lt;/a&gt; arguably makes more sense viewed as part of a rank two temperament with octaves rather than rank one without them.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 14c, 27, 41, 68, 109&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 14c, 27, 41, 68, 109&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 100/99, 243/242, 245/242&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 100/99, 243/242, 245/242&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chords%20of%20octacot"&gt;Chords of octacot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
See also: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chords%20of%20octacot"&gt;Chords of octacot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 100/99, 144/143, 196/195, 243/242&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 100/99, 144/143, 196/195, 243/242&lt;br /&gt;
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