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The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. That means 64/63, the Archytas comma, for porcupine, 36/35, the septimal quarter tone, for hystrix, 50/49, the jubilisma, for hedgehog, and 49/48, the slendro diesis, for nautilus.
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. That means 64/63, the Archytas comma, for porcupine, 36/35, the septimal quarter tone, for hystrix, 50/49, the jubilisma, for hedgehog, and 49/48, the slendro diesis, for nautilus.


===Porcupine===
==Porcupine==
Porcupine, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 -6 1 -18 -28||, uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to 7/4. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as [[22edo]] provides, and once again 3/22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8/59, 11/81, or 19/140 for our generator.
Porcupine, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 -6 1 -18 -28||, uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to 7/4. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as [[22edo]] provides, and once again 3/22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8/59, 11/81, or 19/140 for our generator.


Commas: 250/243, 64/63
Commas: 250/243, 64/63


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 162.880
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 162.880


Map: [&lt;1 2 3 2|, &lt;0 -3 -5 6|]
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 2|, &lt;0 -3 -5 6|]
EDOs: 22, 59, 81, 140
===11-limit===
Commas: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 162.747


EDOs: 22, 59, 81, 140
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 2 4|, &lt;0 -3 -5 6 -4|]
EDOs: 7, 15, 22, 37, 59
Badness: 0.0217


===Hystrix===
==Hystrix==
Hystrix, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 1 1 -7 -12||, provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix, for which a generator of 2/15 or 9/68 can be used, is a temperament for the adventurous souls who have probably already tried [[15edo]]. They can try the even sharper fifth of hystrix in [[68edo]] and see how that suits.
Hystrix, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 1 1 -7 -12||, provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix, for which a generator of 2/15 or 9/68 can be used, is a temperament for the adventurous souls who have probably already tried [[15edo]]. They can try the even sharper fifth of hystrix in [[68edo]] and see how that suits.


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EDOs: 15, 68
EDOs: 15, 68


===Hedgehog===
==Hedgehog==
Hedgehog, with wedgie &lt;&lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &lt;146 232 338 411| val with generator 10/73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.
Hedgehog, with wedgie &lt;&lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &lt;146 232 338 411| val with generator 10/73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.


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The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. That means 64/63, the Archytas comma, for porcupine, 36/35, the septimal quarter tone, for hystrix, 50/49, the jubilisma, for hedgehog, and 49/48, the slendro diesis, for nautilus.&lt;br /&gt;
The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. That means 64/63, the Archytas comma, for porcupine, 36/35, the septimal quarter tone, for hystrix, 50/49, the jubilisma, for hedgehog, and 49/48, the slendro diesis, for nautilus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Porcupine, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 -6 1 -18 -28||, uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to 7/4. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; provides, and once again 3/22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8/59, 11/81, or 19/140 for our generator.&lt;br /&gt;
Porcupine, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 -6 1 -18 -28||, uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to 7/4. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; provides, and once again 3/22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8/59, 11/81, or 19/140 for our generator.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 250/243, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 250/243, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 162.880&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~10/9 = 162.880&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 3 2|, &amp;lt;0 -3 -5 6|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 3 2|, &amp;lt;0 -3 -5 6|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 59, 81, 140&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 162.747&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 59, 81, 140&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 3 2 4|, &amp;lt;0 -3 -5 6 -4|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 7, 15, 22, 37, 59&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0217&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc2"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Seven limit children-Hystrix"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 --&gt;Hystrix&lt;/h3&gt;
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Hystrix, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 1 1 -7 -12||, provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix, for which a generator of 2/15 or 9/68 can be used, is a temperament for the adventurous souls who have probably already tried &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo"&gt;15edo&lt;/a&gt;. They can try the even sharper fifth of hystrix in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; and see how that suits.&lt;br /&gt;
Hystrix, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 1 1 -7 -12||, provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix, for which a generator of 2/15 or 9/68 can be used, is a temperament for the adventurous souls who have probably already tried &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo"&gt;15edo&lt;/a&gt;. They can try the even sharper fifth of hystrix in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; and see how that suits.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 15, 68&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 15, 68&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Seven limit children-Hedgehog"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --&gt;Hedgehog&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc4"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Hedgehog"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 --&gt;Hedgehog&lt;/h2&gt;
Hedgehog, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &amp;lt;146 232 338 411| val with generator 10/73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.&lt;br /&gt;
Hedgehog, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 10 10 2 -1 -5||, has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out 245/243, the sensamagic comma. 22et provides the obvious tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative, you could try the &amp;lt;146 232 338 411| val with generator 10/73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14 note MOS gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22.&lt;br /&gt;
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