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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]] | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]] | ||
=Definition= | |||
=Definition= | |||
Given N-edo, the equal division of the octave into N parts, we may for any prime p find a corresponding [[p-limit]] [[val]] in a canonical manner by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_multiplication|scalar multiplying]] <1 [[log2]](3) log2(5) ... log(p)| by N and rounding to the nearest integer. In general this is not guaranteed to be the most accurate available val, but if N-edo has enough relative accuracy in the p-limit, it will be. The name //patent// comes from the fact that "patent" in one sense of the word is a synonym for "obvious"; the patent val may or may not be the best choice but it's the obvious choice. | Given N-edo, the equal division of the octave into N parts, we may for any prime p find a corresponding [[p-limit]] [[val]] in a canonical manner by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_multiplication|scalar multiplying]] <1 [[log2]](3) log2(5) ... log(p)| by N and rounding to the nearest integer. In general this is not guaranteed to be the most accurate available val, but if N-edo has enough relative accuracy in the p-limit, it will be. The name //patent// comes from the fact that "patent" in one sense of the word is a synonym for "obvious"; the patent val may or may not be the best choice but it's the obvious choice. | ||
=A 12 EDO Example= | =A 12 EDO Example= | ||
Multiplying 12 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459| | Multiplying 12 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459| | ||
yields <12 19.020 27.863 33.688 41.513|, | yields <12 19.020 27.863 33.688 41.513|, | ||
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which is the **11-limit patent val for [[12edo]]**. | which is the **11-limit patent val for [[12edo]]**. | ||
=An expanded example for 31 EDO= | =An expanded example for 31 EDO= | ||
The val contains the number of steps it takes to get to a given prime number, in prime number order: | The val contains the number of steps it takes to get to a given prime number, in prime number order: | ||
< [2/1] [3/1] [5/1] [7/1] [etc.] | | < [2/1] [3/1] [5/1] [7/1] [etc.] | | ||
By definition, for any EDO, the number of steps to 2/1 is the EDO division: 31 for 31 EDO. The 2-limit patent val is < 31 |. | By definition, for any EDO, the number of steps to 2/1 is the EDO division: 31 for 31 EDO. The 2-limit patent val is < 31 |. | ||
What' | What's the number of steps to 3/1? | ||
The step size for 31 EDO is 38.70967742 cents. | The step size for 31 EDO is 38.70967742 cents. | ||
3/1 is 1901.96 in cents. | 3/1 is 1901.96 in cents. | ||
1901.96 cents / 38.70967742 cents/step = 49.13383752 steps. | 1901.96 cents / 38.70967742 cents/step = 49.13383752 steps. | ||
This is an EDO, | This is an EDO, so we can't take 0.13383752 steps. Instead, we round. This is clearly closer to 49 steps, so that's the "obvious" or "patent" choice. The 3-limit patent val is | ||
< 31 49 |. Doing the same thing up through 17, and we get an 17-limit patent val of | |||
< 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 | | < 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 | | ||
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19/1 = 5097.51 cents, 5097.51 / 38.70967742 cents/step = 131.6857529 steps. Round to get 132. The 19-limit patent val is | 19/1 = 5097.51 cents, 5097.51 / 38.70967742 cents/step = 131.6857529 steps. Round to get 132. The 19-limit patent val is | ||
< 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 132 |</pre></div> | < 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 132 | | ||
Note that these are the same answers you would get if you multiplied 31 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459 | and rounded the result. | |||
=Why this defines a regular temperament= | |||
A val defines a regular temperament, which is the deliberate introduction of an error into one or more primes. In 12 EDO, for instance, the perfect fifth (ratio 3/2, or exactly 1.5) is mapped to 700 cents, which is actually just barely flat: a ratio of 2^(700/1200), or 1.4983070769. | |||
As stated above, the 2/1 in the patent val is perfect. The patent val for 12 EDO, <12 19 28 34 42 (etc) |, implies that it takes 12 steps to get the octave. The patent val for 31 EDO, <31 49 72 87 107 (etc) |, implies that it takes 31 steps to get to the octave. | |||
In the patent val for 12 EDO, the number 19 is in the second spot -- the place reserved for 3/1. That implies that it takes 19 steps to get to 3/1. The 49 in the patent val for 31 EDO implies that it takes 49 steps to get to 3/1. We know those aren't precisely true, because we had to round to get these numbers in the first place. In essence, we're //pretending// 19 steps gets you to 3/1 in 12 EDO; in other words, we're deliberately introducing an error into 3/1. Likewise with 49 steps of 31 EDO. | |||
We can calculate the error we're introducing into 3/1 as follows for 12 EDO: | |||
12 EDO steps are 100.0 cents. | |||
19 steps of 12 EDO = 19 steps * 100.0 cents/step = 1900.0 cents. | |||
1900.0 cents => 2^(1900/1200), or 2.9966141538. This is the value that 12 EDO uses in place of prime 3. | |||
That means that the 12 EDO patent val substitutes 2.9966141538 any time you would have had prime 3 in a ratio. 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat. 4/3 will be somewhat sharp. | |||
(Note that, for now, the example intervals (3/2, 4/3, 9/8) deliberately avoid any primes other than 3 and 2, and 2 is pure, so the sharpness and flatness comes only from the impure 3/1 value.) | |||
Likewise for 31 EDO. | |||
31 EDO steps are 38.70967742 cents. | |||
49 steps of 31 EDO = 49 steps * 38.70967742 cents/step = 1896.774194 cents. | |||
1896.774194 cents => 2^(1896.774194/1200), or 2.991035765. This is what 31 EDO uses in place of prime 3. Again, 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat, and 4/3 will be somewhat sharp. | |||
Note that 31 EDO's prime 3 is a little farther away from 3/1 than 12 EDO's 3/1 -- i.e., it has a greater error. That means 31 EDO's 3/2 will be even flatter, and its 4/3 will be even sharper, than in 12 EDO. | |||
That doesn't make 31 EDO better or worse; it just means there's more error in the 3/1 ratio in 31 EDO than in 12 EDO. If you run these calculations for 5/1 using the patent vals for 12 EDO and 31 EDO, you'll find that 5/1 has more error in 12 EDO than in 31 EDO: 5.0396842 vs. 5.002262078, respectively. 31 EDO may therefore be preferred by people who like sweeter thirds (5/4 ratios) and are willing to have flatter fifths (3/2 ratios). | |||
==How this relates to commas== | |||
These deliberate errors ensure that certain commas get tempered out. The patent vals for both 12 EDO and 31 EDO temper out 81/80. Here are the calculations: | |||
81 = 3*3*3*3. This can also be written as a power of a prime -- 3^4 -- or as a monzo -- | 0 3 >. | |||
80 = 2*2*2*2*5. This can also be written as a product of powers of primes -- (2^4)*(5^1) -- or as a monzo -- | 2 0 1 >. | |||
Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 12 EDO and get this: (2.9966141538^4) / (2^4)*(5.0396842) = 80.6349472 / 80.6349472 = 1/1. | |||
Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 31 EDO and get this: (2.991035765^4) / (2^4)*(5.002262078) = 80.036193 / 80.036193 = 1/1. | |||
The lesson here is that even though the errors in the primes are different for each EDO + patent val in these cases, 81/80 is still tempered out. However, that's not true for all commas; for instance, 12 EDO tempers out 128/125, the diesis, while 31 EDO does not; and 31 EDO tempers out 393216/390625, the Wuerschmidt comma, while 12 EDO does not.</pre></div> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Definition"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Definition</h1> | Given N-edo, the equal division of the octave into N parts, we may for any prime p find a corresponding <a class="wiki_link" href="/p-limit">p-limit</a> <a class="wiki_link" href="/val">val</a> in a canonical manner by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_multiplication" rel="nofollow">scalar multiplying</a> &lt;1 <a class="wiki_link" href="/log2">log2</a>(3) log2(5) ... log(p)| by N and rounding to the nearest integer. In general this is not guaranteed to be the most accurate available val, but if N-edo has enough relative accuracy in the p-limit, it will be. The name <em>patent</em> comes from the fact that &quot;patent&quot; in one sense of the word is a synonym for &quot;obvious&quot;; the patent val may or may not be the best choice but it's the obvious choice.<br /> | ||
Given N-edo, the equal division of the octave into N parts, we may for any prime p find a corresponding <a class="wiki_link" href="/p-limit">p-limit</a> <a class="wiki_link" href="/val">val</a> in a canonical manner by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_multiplication" rel="nofollow">scalar multiplying</a> &lt;1 <a class="wiki_link" href="/log2">log2</a>(3) log2(5) ... log(p)| by N and rounding to the nearest integer. In general this is not guaranteed to be the most accurate available val, but if N-edo has enough relative accuracy in the p-limit, it will be. The name <em>patent</em> comes from the fact that &quot;patent&quot; in one sense of the word is a synonym for &quot;obvious&quot;; the patent val may or may not be the best choice but it's the obvious choice.<br /> | |||
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Multiplying 12 times &lt;1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459|<br /> | Multiplying 12 times &lt;1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459|<br /> | ||
yields &lt;12 19.020 27.863 33.688 41.513|,<br /> | yields &lt;12 19.020 27.863 33.688 41.513|,<br /> | ||
rounded to &lt;12 19 28 34 42|,<br /> | rounded to &lt;12 19 28 34 42|,<br /> | ||
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The val contains the number of steps it takes to get to a given prime number, in prime number order:<br /> | The val contains the number of steps it takes to get to a given prime number, in prime number order:<br /> | ||
&lt; [2/1] [3/1] [5/1] [7/1] [etc.] |<br /> | &lt; [2/1] [3/1] [5/1] [7/1] [etc.] |<br /> | ||
By definition, for any EDO, the number of steps to 2/1 is the EDO division: 31 for 31 EDO. The 2-limit patent val is &lt; 31 |.<br /> | By definition, for any EDO, the number of steps to 2/1 is the EDO division: 31 for 31 EDO. The 2-limit patent val is &lt; 31 |.<br /> | ||
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What' | What's the number of steps to 3/1?<br /> | ||
The step size for 31 EDO is 38.70967742 cents.<br /> | The step size for 31 EDO is 38.70967742 cents.<br /> | ||
3/1 is 1901.96 in cents.<br /> | 3/1 is 1901.96 in cents.<br /> | ||
1901.96 cents / 38.70967742 cents/step = 49.13383752 steps.<br /> | 1901.96 cents / 38.70967742 cents/step = 49.13383752 steps.<br /> | ||
This is an EDO, | This is an EDO, so we can't take 0.13383752 steps. Instead, we round. This is clearly closer to 49 steps, so that's the &quot;obvious&quot; or &quot;patent&quot; choice. The 3-limit patent val is <br /> | ||
&lt; 31 49 |. Doing the same thing up through 17, and we get an 17-limit patent val of<br /> | |||
&lt; 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 |<br /> | &lt; 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 |<br /> | ||
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19/1 = 5097.51 cents, 5097.51 / 38.70967742 cents/step = 131.6857529 steps. Round to get 132. The 19-limit patent val is<br /> | 19/1 = 5097.51 cents, 5097.51 / 38.70967742 cents/step = 131.6857529 steps. Round to get 132. The 19-limit patent val is<br /> | ||
&lt; 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 132 |</body></html></pre></div> | &lt; 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 132 |<br /> | ||
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Note that these are the same answers you would get if you multiplied 31 times &lt;1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459 | and rounded the result.<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc3"><a name="xWhy this defines a regular temperament"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->Why this defines a regular temperament</h1> | |||
A val defines a regular temperament, which is the deliberate introduction of an error into one or more primes. In 12 EDO, for instance, the perfect fifth (ratio 3/2, or exactly 1.5) is mapped to 700 cents, which is actually just barely flat: a ratio of 2^(700/1200), or 1.4983070769.<br /> | |||
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As stated above, the 2/1 in the patent val is perfect. The patent val for 12 EDO, &lt;12 19 28 34 42 (etc) |, implies that it takes 12 steps to get the octave. The patent val for 31 EDO, &lt;31 49 72 87 107 (etc) |, implies that it takes 31 steps to get to the octave.<br /> | |||
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In the patent val for 12 EDO, the number 19 is in the second spot -- the place reserved for 3/1. That implies that it takes 19 steps to get to 3/1. The 49 in the patent val for 31 EDO implies that it takes 49 steps to get to 3/1. We know those aren't precisely true, because we had to round to get these numbers in the first place. In essence, we're <em>pretending</em> 19 steps gets you to 3/1 in 12 EDO; in other words, we're deliberately introducing an error into 3/1. Likewise with 49 steps of 31 EDO.<br /> | |||
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We can calculate the error we're introducing into 3/1 as follows for 12 EDO:<br /> | |||
12 EDO steps are 100.0 cents.<br /> | |||
19 steps of 12 EDO = 19 steps * 100.0 cents/step = 1900.0 cents.<br /> | |||
1900.0 cents =&gt; 2^(1900/1200), or 2.9966141538. This is the value that 12 EDO uses in place of prime 3.<br /> | |||
That means that the 12 EDO patent val substitutes 2.9966141538 any time you would have had prime 3 in a ratio. 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat. 4/3 will be somewhat sharp.<br /> | |||
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(Note that, for now, the example intervals (3/2, 4/3, 9/8) deliberately avoid any primes other than 3 and 2, and 2 is pure, so the sharpness and flatness comes only from the impure 3/1 value.)<br /> | |||
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Likewise for 31 EDO.<br /> | |||
31 EDO steps are 38.70967742 cents.<br /> | |||
49 steps of 31 EDO = 49 steps * 38.70967742 cents/step = 1896.774194 cents.<br /> | |||
1896.774194 cents =&gt; 2^(1896.774194/1200), or 2.991035765. This is what 31 EDO uses in place of prime 3. Again, 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat, and 4/3 will be somewhat sharp.<br /> | |||
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Note that 31 EDO's prime 3 is a little farther away from 3/1 than 12 EDO's 3/1 -- i.e., it has a greater error. That means 31 EDO's 3/2 will be even flatter, and its 4/3 will be even sharper, than in 12 EDO.<br /> | |||
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That doesn't make 31 EDO better or worse; it just means there's more error in the 3/1 ratio in 31 EDO than in 12 EDO. If you run these calculations for 5/1 using the patent vals for 12 EDO and 31 EDO, you'll find that 5/1 has more error in 12 EDO than in 31 EDO: 5.0396842 vs. 5.002262078, respectively. 31 EDO may therefore be preferred by people who like sweeter thirds (5/4 ratios) and are willing to have flatter fifths (3/2 ratios).<br /> | |||
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These deliberate errors ensure that certain commas get tempered out. The patent vals for both 12 EDO and 31 EDO temper out 81/80. Here are the calculations:<br /> | |||
81 = 3*3*3*3. This can also be written as a power of a prime -- 3^4 -- or as a monzo -- | 0 3 &gt;.<br /> | |||
80 = 2*2*2*2*5. This can also be written as a product of powers of primes -- (2^4)*(5^1) -- or as a monzo -- | 2 0 1 &gt;.<br /> | |||
Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 12 EDO and get this: (2.9966141538^4) / (2^4)*(5.0396842) = 80.6349472 / 80.6349472 = 1/1.<br /> | |||
Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 31 EDO and get this: (2.991035765^4) / (2^4)*(5.002262078) = 80.036193 / 80.036193 = 1/1.<br /> | |||
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The lesson here is that even though the errors in the primes are different for each EDO + patent val in these cases, 81/80 is still tempered out. However, that's not true for all commas; for instance, 12 EDO tempers out 128/125, the diesis, while 31 EDO does not; and 31 EDO tempers out 393216/390625, the Wuerschmidt comma, while 12 EDO does not.</body></html></pre></div> | |||
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[[toc|flat]] =Definition= Given N-edo, the equal division of the octave into N parts, we may for any prime p find a corresponding [[p-limit]] [[val]] in a canonical manner by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_multiplication|scalar multiplying]] <1 [[log2]](3) log2(5) ... log(p)| by N and rounding to the nearest integer. In general this is not guaranteed to be the most accurate available val, but if N-edo has enough relative accuracy in the p-limit, it will be. The name //patent// comes from the fact that "patent" in one sense of the word is a synonym for "obvious"; the patent val may or may not be the best choice but it's the obvious choice. =A 12 EDO Example= Multiplying 12 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459| yields <12 19.020 27.863 33.688 41.513|, rounded to <12 19 28 34 42|, which is the **11-limit patent val for [[12edo]]**. =An expanded example for 31 EDO= The val contains the number of steps it takes to get to a given prime number, in prime number order: < [2/1] [3/1] [5/1] [7/1] [etc.] | By definition, for any EDO, the number of steps to 2/1 is the EDO division: 31 for 31 EDO. The 2-limit patent val is < 31 |. What's the number of steps to 3/1? The step size for 31 EDO is 38.70967742 cents. 3/1 is 1901.96 in cents. 1901.96 cents / 38.70967742 cents/step = 49.13383752 steps. This is an EDO, so we can't take 0.13383752 steps. Instead, we round. This is clearly closer to 49 steps, so that's the "obvious" or "patent" choice. The 3-limit patent val is < 31 49 |. Doing the same thing up through 17, and we get an 17-limit patent val of < 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 | To see how to extend from one limit to another, we may look at what to do for 19/1 and use that to go from the 17-limit to the 19-limit. 19/1 = 5097.51 cents, 5097.51 / 38.70967742 cents/step = 131.6857529 steps. Round to get 132. The 19-limit patent val is < 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 132 | Note that these are the same answers you would get if you multiplied 31 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459 | and rounded the result. =Why this defines a regular temperament= A val defines a regular temperament, which is the deliberate introduction of an error into one or more primes. In 12 EDO, for instance, the perfect fifth (ratio 3/2, or exactly 1.5) is mapped to 700 cents, which is actually just barely flat: a ratio of 2^(700/1200), or 1.4983070769. As stated above, the 2/1 in the patent val is perfect. The patent val for 12 EDO, <12 19 28 34 42 (etc) |, implies that it takes 12 steps to get the octave. The patent val for 31 EDO, <31 49 72 87 107 (etc) |, implies that it takes 31 steps to get to the octave. In the patent val for 12 EDO, the number 19 is in the second spot -- the place reserved for 3/1. That implies that it takes 19 steps to get to 3/1. The 49 in the patent val for 31 EDO implies that it takes 49 steps to get to 3/1. We know those aren't precisely true, because we had to round to get these numbers in the first place. In essence, we're //pretending// 19 steps gets you to 3/1 in 12 EDO; in other words, we're deliberately introducing an error into 3/1. Likewise with 49 steps of 31 EDO. We can calculate the error we're introducing into 3/1 as follows for 12 EDO: 12 EDO steps are 100.0 cents. 19 steps of 12 EDO = 19 steps * 100.0 cents/step = 1900.0 cents. 1900.0 cents => 2^(1900/1200), or 2.9966141538. This is the value that 12 EDO uses in place of prime 3. That means that the 12 EDO patent val substitutes 2.9966141538 any time you would have had prime 3 in a ratio. 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat. 4/3 will be somewhat sharp. (Note that, for now, the example intervals (3/2, 4/3, 9/8) deliberately avoid any primes other than 3 and 2, and 2 is pure, so the sharpness and flatness comes only from the impure 3/1 value.) Likewise for 31 EDO. 31 EDO steps are 38.70967742 cents. 49 steps of 31 EDO = 49 steps * 38.70967742 cents/step = 1896.774194 cents. 1896.774194 cents => 2^(1896.774194/1200), or 2.991035765. This is what 31 EDO uses in place of prime 3. Again, 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat, and 4/3 will be somewhat sharp. Note that 31 EDO's prime 3 is a little farther away from 3/1 than 12 EDO's 3/1 -- i.e., it has a greater error. That means 31 EDO's 3/2 will be even flatter, and its 4/3 will be even sharper, than in 12 EDO. That doesn't make 31 EDO better or worse; it just means there's more error in the 3/1 ratio in 31 EDO than in 12 EDO. If you run these calculations for 5/1 using the patent vals for 12 EDO and 31 EDO, you'll find that 5/1 has more error in 12 EDO than in 31 EDO: 5.0396842 vs. 5.002262078, respectively. 31 EDO may therefore be preferred by people who like sweeter thirds (5/4 ratios) and are willing to have flatter fifths (3/2 ratios). ==How this relates to commas== These deliberate errors ensure that certain commas get tempered out. The patent vals for both 12 EDO and 31 EDO temper out 81/80. Here are the calculations: 81 = 3*3*3*3. This can also be written as a power of a prime -- 3^4 -- or as a monzo -- | 0 3 >. 80 = 2*2*2*2*5. This can also be written as a product of powers of primes -- (2^4)*(5^1) -- or as a monzo -- | 2 0 1 >. Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 12 EDO and get this: (2.9966141538^4) / (2^4)*(5.0396842) = 80.6349472 / 80.6349472 = 1/1. Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 31 EDO and get this: (2.991035765^4) / (2^4)*(5.002262078) = 80.036193 / 80.036193 = 1/1. The lesson here is that even though the errors in the primes are different for each EDO + patent val in these cases, 81/80 is still tempered out. However, that's not true for all commas; for instance, 12 EDO tempers out 128/125, the diesis, while 31 EDO does not; and 31 EDO tempers out 393216/390625, the Wuerschmidt comma, while 12 EDO does not.
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<html><head><title>Patent val</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:10:<img id="wikitext@@toc@@flat" class="WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat" title="Table of Contents" src="/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&h=16"/> --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:10 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:11: --><a href="#Definition">Definition</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:11 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:12: --> | <a href="#A 12 EDO Example">A 12 EDO Example</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:12 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:13: --> | <a href="#xAn expanded example for 31 EDO">An expanded example for 31 EDO</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:13 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:14: --> | <a href="#xWhy this defines a regular temperament">Why this defines a regular temperament</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:14 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:15: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:15 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:16: --> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:16 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h1> --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Definition"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Definition</h1> Given N-edo, the equal division of the octave into N parts, we may for any prime p find a corresponding <a class="wiki_link" href="/p-limit">p-limit</a> <a class="wiki_link" href="/val">val</a> in a canonical manner by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_multiplication" rel="nofollow">scalar multiplying</a> <1 <a class="wiki_link" href="/log2">log2</a>(3) log2(5) ... log(p)| by N and rounding to the nearest integer. In general this is not guaranteed to be the most accurate available val, but if N-edo has enough relative accuracy in the p-limit, it will be. The name <em>patent</em> comes from the fact that "patent" in one sense of the word is a synonym for "obvious"; the patent val may or may not be the best choice but it's the obvious choice.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h1> --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="A 12 EDO Example"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->A 12 EDO Example</h1> Multiplying 12 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459|<br /> yields <12 19.020 27.863 33.688 41.513|,<br /> rounded to <12 19 28 34 42|,<br /> which is the <strong>11-limit patent val for <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a></strong>.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h1> --><h1 id="toc2"><a name="xAn expanded example for 31 EDO"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->An expanded example for 31 EDO</h1> The val contains the number of steps it takes to get to a given prime number, in prime number order:<br /> < [2/1] [3/1] [5/1] [7/1] [etc.] |<br /> By definition, for any EDO, the number of steps to 2/1 is the EDO division: 31 for 31 EDO. The 2-limit patent val is < 31 |.<br /> <br /> What's the number of steps to 3/1?<br /> The step size for 31 EDO is 38.70967742 cents.<br /> 3/1 is 1901.96 in cents.<br /> 1901.96 cents / 38.70967742 cents/step = 49.13383752 steps.<br /> This is an EDO, so we can't take 0.13383752 steps. Instead, we round. This is clearly closer to 49 steps, so that's the "obvious" or "patent" choice. The 3-limit patent val is <br /> < 31 49 |. Doing the same thing up through 17, and we get an 17-limit patent val of<br /> < 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 |<br /> <br /> To see how to extend from one limit to another, we may look at what to do for 19/1 and use that to go from the 17-limit to the 19-limit.<br /> <br /> 19/1 = 5097.51 cents, 5097.51 / 38.70967742 cents/step = 131.6857529 steps. Round to get 132. The 19-limit patent val is<br /> < 31 49 72 87 107 115 127 132 |<br /> <br /> Note that these are the same answers you would get if you multiplied 31 times <1 1.585 2.322 2.807 3.459 | and rounded the result.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:<h1> --><h1 id="toc3"><a name="xWhy this defines a regular temperament"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->Why this defines a regular temperament</h1> A val defines a regular temperament, which is the deliberate introduction of an error into one or more primes. In 12 EDO, for instance, the perfect fifth (ratio 3/2, or exactly 1.5) is mapped to 700 cents, which is actually just barely flat: a ratio of 2^(700/1200), or 1.4983070769.<br /> <br /> As stated above, the 2/1 in the patent val is perfect. The patent val for 12 EDO, <12 19 28 34 42 (etc) |, implies that it takes 12 steps to get the octave. The patent val for 31 EDO, <31 49 72 87 107 (etc) |, implies that it takes 31 steps to get to the octave.<br /> <br /> In the patent val for 12 EDO, the number 19 is in the second spot -- the place reserved for 3/1. That implies that it takes 19 steps to get to 3/1. The 49 in the patent val for 31 EDO implies that it takes 49 steps to get to 3/1. We know those aren't precisely true, because we had to round to get these numbers in the first place. In essence, we're <em>pretending</em> 19 steps gets you to 3/1 in 12 EDO; in other words, we're deliberately introducing an error into 3/1. Likewise with 49 steps of 31 EDO.<br /> <br /> We can calculate the error we're introducing into 3/1 as follows for 12 EDO:<br /> 12 EDO steps are 100.0 cents.<br /> 19 steps of 12 EDO = 19 steps * 100.0 cents/step = 1900.0 cents.<br /> 1900.0 cents => 2^(1900/1200), or 2.9966141538. This is the value that 12 EDO uses in place of prime 3.<br /> That means that the 12 EDO patent val substitutes 2.9966141538 any time you would have had prime 3 in a ratio. 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat. 4/3 will be somewhat sharp.<br /> <br /> (Note that, for now, the example intervals (3/2, 4/3, 9/8) deliberately avoid any primes other than 3 and 2, and 2 is pure, so the sharpness and flatness comes only from the impure 3/1 value.)<br /> <br /> Likewise for 31 EDO.<br /> 31 EDO steps are 38.70967742 cents.<br /> 49 steps of 31 EDO = 49 steps * 38.70967742 cents/step = 1896.774194 cents.<br /> 1896.774194 cents => 2^(1896.774194/1200), or 2.991035765. This is what 31 EDO uses in place of prime 3. Again, 9/8 and 3/2 will be somewhat flat, and 4/3 will be somewhat sharp.<br /> <br /> Note that 31 EDO's prime 3 is a little farther away from 3/1 than 12 EDO's 3/1 -- i.e., it has a greater error. That means 31 EDO's 3/2 will be even flatter, and its 4/3 will be even sharper, than in 12 EDO.<br /> <br /> That doesn't make 31 EDO better or worse; it just means there's more error in the 3/1 ratio in 31 EDO than in 12 EDO. If you run these calculations for 5/1 using the patent vals for 12 EDO and 31 EDO, you'll find that 5/1 has more error in 12 EDO than in 31 EDO: 5.0396842 vs. 5.002262078, respectively. 31 EDO may therefore be preferred by people who like sweeter thirds (5/4 ratios) and are willing to have flatter fifths (3/2 ratios).<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:<h2> --><h2 id="toc4"><a name="xWhy this defines a regular temperament-How this relates to commas"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 -->How this relates to commas</h2> These deliberate errors ensure that certain commas get tempered out. The patent vals for both 12 EDO and 31 EDO temper out 81/80. Here are the calculations:<br /> 81 = 3*3*3*3. This can also be written as a power of a prime -- 3^4 -- or as a monzo -- | 0 3 >.<br /> 80 = 2*2*2*2*5. This can also be written as a product of powers of primes -- (2^4)*(5^1) -- or as a monzo -- | 2 0 1 >.<br /> Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 12 EDO and get this: (2.9966141538^4) / (2^4)*(5.0396842) = 80.6349472 / 80.6349472 = 1/1.<br /> Substitute in the values for 81/80 in 31 EDO and get this: (2.991035765^4) / (2^4)*(5.002262078) = 80.036193 / 80.036193 = 1/1.<br /> <br /> The lesson here is that even though the errors in the primes are different for each EDO + patent val in these cases, 81/80 is still tempered out. However, that's not true for all commas; for instance, 12 EDO tempers out 128/125, the diesis, while 31 EDO does not; and 31 EDO tempers out 393216/390625, the Wuerschmidt comma, while 12 EDO does not.</body></html>