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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/48 = 29.181
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.252¢, ~49/48 = 29.187¢
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~49/48 = 29.172¢


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 206, 247bc, 288bcd, 329bcd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 206, 247bc, 288bcd, 329bcd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.142903
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.616


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/48 = 29.180
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.803¢, ~49/48 = 29.175¢
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~49/48 = 29.188¢


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 206e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 206e }}


Badness: 0.063217
Badness (Sintel): 2.090


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 245/242, 343/338
Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 245/242, 343/338


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -17 -28 -8 -22 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -17 -28 -8 -22 -12 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~49/48 = 29.125
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.091¢, ~40/39 = 29.103¢
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~40/39 = 29.158¢


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 124ef, 165ef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 124ef, 165ef }}


Badness: 0.043644
Badness (Sintel): 1.803


== Slithy ==
== Slithy ==

Revision as of 22:37, 10 February 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

This is a collection of rank-2 temperaments tempering out the octagar comma (monzo[5 -4 3 -2, ratio: 4000/3969).

Temperaments considered below are slendi and slithy. Discussed elsewhere are:

Slendi

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4000/3969, 84035/82944

Mapping[1 2 3 3], 0 -17 -28 -8]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.252¢, ~49/48 = 29.187¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~49/48 = 29.172¢

Optimal ET sequence41, 206, 247bc, 288bcd, 329bcd

Badness (Sintel): 3.616

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 100/99, 245/242, 46656/46585

Mapping: [1 2 3 3 4], 0 -17 -28 -8 -22]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.803¢, ~49/48 = 29.175¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~49/48 = 29.188¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41, 206e

Badness (Sintel): 2.090

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 245/242, 343/338

Mapping: [1 2 3 3 4 4], 0 -17 -28 -8 -22 -12]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.091¢, ~40/39 = 29.103¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000¢, ~40/39 = 29.158¢

Optimal ET sequence: 41, 124ef, 165ef

Badness (Sintel): 1.803

Slithy

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4000/3969, 420175/419904

Mapping[1 3 5 4], 0 -19 -36 -16]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 89.282

Optimal ET sequence27, 94, 121, 215, 336d

Badness: 0.107482

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 540/539, 2200/2187, 4375/4356

Mapping: [1 3 5 4 8], 0 -19 -36 -16 -61]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 89.291

Optimal ET sequence: 94, 121, 215, 336de, 551bde

Badness: 0.045895

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 540/539, 1575/1573

Mapping: [1 3 5 4 8 4], 0 -19 -36 -16 -61 -4]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 89.286

Optimal ET sequence: 94, 121, 215, 336def

Badness: 0.028492

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 375/374, 540/539, 595/594

Mapping: [1 3 5 4 8 4 9], 0 -19 -36 -16 -61 -4 -66]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 89.286

Optimal ET sequence: 94, 121, 215, 336defg

Badness: 0.019811

19-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 190/189, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 375/374, 595/594

Mapping: [1 3 5 4 8 4 9 7], 0 -19 -36 -16 -61 -4 -66 -37]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~19/18 = 89.288

Optimal ET sequence: 94, 121, 215, 336defg

Badness: 0.016408

23-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23

Comma list: 190/189, 300/299, 323/322, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 484/483

Mapping: [1 3 5 4 8 4 9 7 11], 0 -19 -36 -16 -61 -4 -66 -37 -87]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~19/18 = 89.297

Optimal ET sequence: 94, 121i, 215

Badness: 0.014946

Tridecatonic

The tridecatonic temperament (26 & 39) has a period of 1/13 octave. It tempers out the tridecalimma, [-11 26 -13 in the 5-limit. There are some extensions for 7-limit, including tridecatonic (26 & 39d, tempering out 4000/3969), trideci (26 & 39, tempering out 4375/4374), and bosonic (26 & 130, tempering out 321489/320000).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4000/3969, 8748/8575

Mapping[13 21 31 37], 0 -1 -2 -1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~21/20 = 92.3077, ~3/2 = 701.9605

Optimal ET sequence26, 39d, 65d

Badness: 0.139213

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 1944/1925, 2560/2541

Mapping: [13 21 31 37 45], 0 -1 -2 -1 0]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~21/20 = 92.3077, ~3/2 = 701.7028

Optimal ET sequence: 26, 39d, 65d

Badness: 0.063257

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 99/98, 144/143, 275/273, 1040/1029

Mapping: [13 21 31 37 45 49], 0 -1 -2 -1 0 -2]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~21/20 = 92.3077, ~3/2 = 701.3573

Optimal ET sequence: 26, 39df, 65d

Badness: 0.037851

Dhaivatic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4000/3969, 2100875/2097152

Mapping[1 -4 -3 6], 0 21 20 -12]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 319.198

Optimal ET sequence15, 64c, 79, 94, 203, 297

Badness: 0.168373

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 1331/1323, 4000/3969

Mapping: [1 -4 -3 6 0], 0 21 20 -12 13]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 319.197

Optimal ET sequence: 15, 64c, 79, 94, 203, 297c

Badness: 0.051216

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 275/273, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323

Mapping: [1 -4 -3 6 0 -8], 0 21 20 -12 13 44]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000, ~6/5 = 319.165

Optimal ET sequence: 15, 49bceff, 64cf, 79, 94

Badness: 0.037468