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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.


There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By **non-radical** is meant a number that cannot be written in the form
There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By **non-radical** is meant a number that cannot be written in the form [[math]] a^{1/b} [[math]], where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.
&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;span class="math" style="display: inline-block; width: 1.94em;"&gt;&lt;span style="clip: rect(1.04em,1000em,2.38em,-0.54em); display: inline-block; font-size: 120%; height: 0px; left: 0em; position: absolute; top: -2.17em; width: 1.6em;"&gt;&lt;span class="mrow"&gt;&lt;span class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;span style="display: inline-block; height: 0px; position: relative; width: 1.61em;"&gt;&lt;span style="clip: rect(1.86em,1000em,2.7em,-0.54em); left: 0em; position: absolute; top: -2.5em;"&gt;&lt;span class="mi" style="font-family: MathJax_Math;"&gt;//a//&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="left: 0.51em; position: absolute; top: -2.72em;"&gt;&lt;span class="texatom"&gt;&lt;span class="mrow"&gt;&lt;span class="mn" style="font-family: MathJax_Main; font-size: 70.7%;"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="texatom"&gt;&lt;span class="mrow"&gt;&lt;span class="mo" style="font-family: MathJax_Main; font-size: 70.7%;"&gt;/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mi" style="font-family: MathJax_Math; font-size: 70.7%;"&gt;//b//&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
, where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.


|| **Ratio** || **Cents** || **Name** || **Musical Significance** ||
|| **Ratio** || **Cents** || **Name** || **Musical Significance** ||
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[[math]] || 833.09 || [[math]]
[[math]] || 833.09 || [[math]]
\text{Phi } (\phi)
\text{Phi } (\phi)
[[math]] || "Linear phi," the unique interval whose continued fraction convergents ||
[[math]] || "Linear phi," the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantine_approximation#General_upper_bound|Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem]]. ||
|| [[math]]
|| [[math]]
e \approx 2.7183
e \approx 2.7183
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Non radical intervals with musical significance&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Non radical intervals with musical significance&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By &lt;strong&gt;non-radical&lt;/strong&gt; is meant a number that cannot be written in the form&lt;br /&gt;
There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By &lt;strong&gt;non-radical&lt;/strong&gt; is meant a number that cannot be written in the form &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/math"&gt;math&lt;/a&gt; a^{1/b} &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/math"&gt;math&lt;/a&gt;, where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="MathJax"&gt;&lt;span style="display: inline-block; width: 1.94em;" class="math"&gt;&lt;span style="clip: rect(1.04em,1000em,2.38em,-0.54em); display: inline-block; font-size: 120%; height: 0px; left: 0em; position: absolute; top: -2.17em; width: 1.6em;"&gt;&lt;span class="mrow"&gt;&lt;span class="msubsup"&gt;&lt;span style="display: inline-block; height: 0px; position: relative; width: 1.61em;"&gt;&lt;span style="clip: rect(1.86em,1000em,2.7em,-0.54em); left: 0em; position: absolute; top: -2.5em;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: MathJax_Math;" class="mi"&gt;&lt;em&gt;a&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="left: 0.51em; position: absolute; top: -2.72em;"&gt;&lt;span class="texatom"&gt;&lt;span class="mrow"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: MathJax_Main; font-size: 70.7%;" class="mn"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="texatom"&gt;&lt;span class="mrow"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: MathJax_Main; font-size: 70.7%;" class="mo"&gt;/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: MathJax_Math; font-size: 70.7%;" class="mi"&gt;&lt;em&gt;b&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
, where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;&amp;quot;Linear phi,&amp;quot; the unique interval whose continued fraction convergents&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;&amp;quot;Linear phi,&amp;quot; the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantine_approximation#General_upper_bound" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.

There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By **non-radical** is meant a number that cannot be written in the form [[math]] a^{1/b} [[math]], where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.

|| **Ratio** || **Cents** || **Name** || **Musical Significance** ||
|| [[math]]
2^{1/\phi}
\approx
1.5348
[[math]] || 741.64 ||   || "Logarithmic phi" which divides the octave into two parts, one being Phi times larger than the other in cents. ||
|| [[math]]
\dfrac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2}
\approx
1.6180
[[math]] || 833.09 || [[math]]
\text{Phi } (\phi)
[[math]] || "Linear phi," the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantine_approximation#General_upper_bound|Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem]]. ||
|| [[math]]
e \approx 2.7183
[[math]] || 1731.23 || "e-tave" || In Gene's black magic formulas, it is mathematically more "natural" to consider the number of divisions to the "e-tave" rather than the octave. ||
|| [[math]]
e^{2\pi} \approx 535.4917
[[math]] || 10877.66 ||   || The zeta function has units that are given as divisions of the interval
[[math]]
e^{2\pi}
[[math]] ||

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<html><head><title>Non radical intervals with musical significance</title></head><body>Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.<br />
<br />
There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By <strong>non-radical</strong> is meant a number that cannot be written in the form <a class="wiki_link" href="/math">math</a> a^{1/b} <a class="wiki_link" href="/math">math</a>, where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.<br />
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        <td><strong>Ratio</strong><br />
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        <td><strong>Cents</strong><br />
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        <td>741.64<br />
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        <td>&quot;Logarithmic phi&quot; which divides the octave into two parts, one being Phi times larger than the other in cents.<br />
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        <td>&quot;Linear phi,&quot; the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantine_approximation#General_upper_bound" rel="nofollow">Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem</a>.<br />
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        <td>1731.23<br />
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        <td>&quot;e-tave&quot;<br />
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        <td>In Gene's black magic formulas, it is mathematically more &quot;natural&quot; to consider the number of divisions to the &quot;e-tave&quot; rather than the octave.<br />
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[[math]]&lt;br/&gt;
e^{2\pi} \approx 535.4917&lt;br/&gt;[[math]]
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        <td>10877.66<br />
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