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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.</pre></div>
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.
 
Comma: |-16 35 -17&gt;
 
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.466
 
Map: [&lt;1 16 32|, &lt;0 -17 -35|]
EDOs: 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091
 
[[toc|flat]]
 
=Mitonic=
As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.
 
However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo]]. The wedgie is now &lt;&lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.
 
Commas: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152
 
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.458
 
Map: [&lt;1 16 32 -15|, &lt;0 -17 -35 21|]
EDOs: 7, 13, 33, 46, 125, 171
Badness: 0.0252
 
=Domain=
Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic+pairs#Terrain|terrain]].
 
Commas: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712
 
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.467
 
Map: [&lt;3 14 26 28|, &lt;0 -17 -35 -36|]
EDOS:
Badness: 0.0140</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Minortonic family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Minortonic family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comma: |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~10/9 = 182.466&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 16 32|, &amp;lt;0 -17 -35|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo"&gt;171edo&lt;/a&gt;. The wedgie is now &amp;lt;&amp;lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.458&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 16 32 -15|, &amp;lt;0 -17 -35 21|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 7, 13, 33, 46, 125, 171&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0252&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic+pairs#Terrain|terrain]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.467&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;3 14 26 28|, &amp;lt;0 -17 -35 -36|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOS:&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0140&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>

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This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17>. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.

Comma: |-16 35 -17>

[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.466

Map: [<1 16 32|, <0 -17 -35|]
EDOs: 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091

[[toc|flat]]

=Mitonic=
As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17>. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie <<17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.

However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo]]. The wedgie is now <<17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.

Commas: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.458

Map: [<1 16 32 -15|, <0 -17 -35 21|]
EDOs: 7, 13, 33, 46, 125, 171
Badness: 0.0252

=Domain=
Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic+pairs#Terrain|terrain]].

Commas: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.467

Map: [<3 14 26 28|, <0 -17 -35 -36|]
EDOS:
Badness: 0.0140

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<html><head><title>Minortonic family</title></head><body>This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.<br />
<br />
Comma: |-16 35 -17&gt;<br />
<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~10/9 = 182.466<br />
<br />
Map: [&lt;1 16 32|, &lt;0 -17 -35|]<br />
EDOs: 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091<br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Mitonic"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Mitonic</h1>
As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.<br />
<br />
However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in <a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo">171edo</a>. The wedgie is now &lt;&lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.<br />
<br />
Commas: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152<br />
<br />
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.458<br />
<br />
Map: [&lt;1 16 32 -15|, &lt;0 -17 -35 21|]<br />
EDOs: 7, 13, 33, 46, 125, 171<br />
Badness: 0.0252<br />
<br />
<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="Domain"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Domain</h1>
Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic+pairs#Terrain|terrain]].<br />
<br />
Commas: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712<br />
<br />
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.467<br />
<br />
Map: [&lt;3 14 26 28|, &lt;0 -17 -35 -36|]<br />
EDOS:<br />
Badness: 0.0140</body></html>