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The [[5-limit]] parent [[Comma|comma]] of the [[meantone]] family is the Didymus or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma|syntonic comma]], 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzo]] for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]], &lt;&lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.
The [[5-limit]] parent [[Comma|comma]] of the [[meantone]] family is the Didymus or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma|syntonic comma]], 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzo]] for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]], &lt;&lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.


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==13-limit==  
==13-limit==  
Commas: 81/80, 686/675, 540/539, ?
Liesel is a very natural 13-limit tuning, given the generator is so near 13/9.
Liese is a very natural 13-limit tuning, given the generator is so near 13/9.


POTE generator: ~13/9 = 633 ?
Commas: 56/55, 78/77, 81/80, 91/90
 
POTE generator: ~10/7 = ~13/9 = 633.042


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -3 4 0|, &lt;0 3 12 11 -1 7|]
Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -3 4 0|, &lt;0 3 12 11 -1 7|]
EDOs: 17, 19 exetra
EDOs: 17c, 19, 36, 91cef
Badness? Not bad at all!
Badness: 0.0273


==Elisa==  
==Elisa==  
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EDOs: 19e, 36e
EDOs: 19e, 36e
Badness: 0.0416
Badness: 0.0416
==Lisa==
Commas: 45/44, 81/80, 343/330
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.370
Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -3 -6|, &lt;0 3 12 11 18|]
EDOs: 19
Badness: 0.0548
==13-limit==
Commas: 45/44, 81/80, 91/88, 147/143
POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.221
Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -3 -6 0|, &lt;0 3 12 11 18 7|]
EDOs: 19
Badness: 0.0361


=Jerome=  
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EDOs: 19, 38d
EDOs: 19, 38d
Badness: 0.0364
Badness: 0.0364
 
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 696.239&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 696.239&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:128:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc64"&gt;&lt;a name="Liese-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:128 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:128:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc64"&gt;&lt;a name="Liese-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:128 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
  Commas: 81/80, 686/675, 540/539, ?&lt;br /&gt;
  Liesel is a very natural 13-limit tuning, given the generator is so near 13/9.&lt;br /&gt;
Liese is a very natural 13-limit tuning, given the generator is so near 13/9.&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~13/9 = 633 ?&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 56/55, 78/77, 81/80, 91/90&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/7 = ~13/9 = 633.042&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 -4 -3 4 0|, &amp;lt;0 3 12 11 -1 7|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 -4 -3 4 0|, &amp;lt;0 3 12 11 -1 7|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 17, 19 exetra&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 17c, 19, 36, 91cef&lt;br /&gt;
Badness? Not bad at all!&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0273&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:130:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc65"&gt;&lt;a name="Liese-Elisa"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:130 --&gt;Elisa&lt;/h2&gt;
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Badness: 0.0416&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0416&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:132:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc66"&gt;&lt;a name="Jerome"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:132 --&gt;Jerome&lt;/h1&gt;
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Commas: 45/44, 81/80, 343/330&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.370&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 -4 -3 -6|, &amp;lt;0 3 12 11 18|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 19&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0548&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:134:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc67"&gt;&lt;a name="Liese-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:134 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 45/44, 81/80, 91/88, 147/143&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/7 = 631.221&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 -4 -3 -6 0|, &amp;lt;0 3 12 11 18 7|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 19&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0361&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:136:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc68"&gt;&lt;a name="Jerome"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:136 --&gt;Jerome&lt;/h1&gt;
  Jerome is related to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/20ed5"&gt;Hieronymus' tuning&lt;/a&gt;; the Hieronymus generator is 5^(1/20), or 139.316 cents. While the generator represents both 13/12 and 12/11, the POTE and Hieronymus generators are close to 13/12 in size.&lt;br /&gt;
  Jerome is related to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/20ed5"&gt;Hieronymus' tuning&lt;/a&gt;; the Hieronymus generator is 5^(1/20), or 139.316 cents. While the generator represents both 13/12 and 12/11, the POTE and Hieronymus generators are close to 13/12 in size.&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.1087&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.1087&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:134:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc67"&gt;&lt;a name="Jerome-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:134 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
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  Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 864/847&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 864/847&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0479&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0479&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:136:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc68"&gt;&lt;a name="Jerome-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:136 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
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  Commas: 77/78, 81/80, 99/98, 144/143&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 77/78, 81/80, 99/98, 144/143&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0293&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0293&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:138:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc69"&gt;&lt;a name="Jerome-17-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:138 --&gt;17-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
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  Commas: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 144/143, 189/187&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 144/143, 189/187&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0209&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0209&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:140:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc70"&gt;&lt;a name="Meanmag"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:140 --&gt;Meanmag&lt;/h1&gt;
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  Commas: 81/80, 3125/3072&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 81/80, 3125/3072&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0770&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0770&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:142:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc71"&gt;&lt;a name="Undevigintone"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:142 --&gt;Undevigintone&lt;/h1&gt;
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  Commas: 49/48, 81/80, 126/125&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 49/48, 81/80, 126/125&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;19 30 44 53 0|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 0 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;19 30 44 53 0|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 0 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 19, 38d&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 19, 38d&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0364&lt;br /&gt;
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