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{{Main| Porcupine }}
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=== 5-limit ===
The [[generator]] of porcupine is a minor whole tone, the [[10/9]] interval, and three of these add up to a perfect fourth ([[4/3]]), with two more giving the minor sixth ([[8/5]]). In fact, (10/9)<sup>3</sup> = (4/3)⋅(250/243), and (10/9)<sup>5</sup> = (8/5)⋅(250/243)<sup>2</sup>. [[22edo|3\22]] is a very recommendable generator, and [[mos scale]]s of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
The [[generator]] of porcupine is a minor whole tone, the [[10/9]] interval, and three of these add up to a perfect fourth ([[4/3]]), with two more giving the minor sixth ([[8/5]]). In fact, (10/9)<sup>3</sup> = (4/3)⋅(250/243), and (10/9)<sup>5</sup> = (8/5)⋅(250/243)<sup>2</sup>. [[22edo|3\22]] is a very recommendable generator, and [[mos scale]]s of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.


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=== Overview to extensions ===
==== 7-limit extensions ====
The third comma defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. That means
* [[64/63]], the archytas comma, for [[#Septimal porcupine|septimal porcupine]],
* [[36/35]], the septimal quarter tone, for [[#Hystrix|hystrix]],
* [[50/49]], the jubilisma, for [[#Hedgehog|hedgehog]], and
* [[49/48]], the slendro diesis, for [[#Nautilus|nautilus]].
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include [[7th-octave temperaments #Jamesbond|jamesbond]].
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Noting that {{nowrap| 250/243 {{=}} ([[55/54]])⋅([[100/99]]) {{=}} S10<sup>2</sup>⋅[[121/120|S11]] }}, the temperament thus extends naturally to the 2.3.5.11 [[subgroup]], sometimes known as ''porkypine'', given right below.
Noting that {{nowrap| 250/243 {{=}} ([[55/54]])⋅([[100/99]]) {{=}} S10<sup>2</sup>⋅[[121/120|S11]] }}, the temperament thus extends naturally to the 2.3.5.11 [[subgroup]], sometimes known as ''porkypine'', given right below.


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Badness (Smith): 0.0305
Badness (Smith): 0.0305
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== 7-limit extensions ====
The third comma defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. That means
* [[64/63]], the archytas comma, for [[#Septimal porcupine|septimal porcupine]],
* [[36/35]], the septimal quarter tone, for [[#Hystrix|hystrix]],
* [[50/49]], the jubilisma, for [[#Hedgehog|hedgehog]], and
* [[49/48]], the slendro diesis, for [[#Nautilus|nautilus]].
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include [[7th-octave temperaments #Jamesbond|jamesbond]].


== Septimal porcupine ==
== Septimal porcupine ==
{{Main| Porcupine }}
{{Main| Porcupine }}


Septimal porcupine uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to [[7/4]]. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as [[22edo]] provides, and once again 3\22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8\59, 11\81, or 19\140 for our generator. Here, we share the same mapping of 7/4 in terms of fifths as [[archy]].
Septimal porcupine uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to [[7/4]]. Here, we share the same mapping of 7/4 in terms of fifths as [[archy]]. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as [[22edo]] provides, and once again 3\22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8\59, 11\81, or 19\140 for our generator.  


=== 7-limit ===
=== 7-limit ===
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Badness (Smith): 0.021562


==== 13-limit (porcupinefish) ====
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 66/65
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 -2 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.442
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.708
 
Minimax tuning:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~10/9 = {{monzo| 1 0 0 0 -1/4 }}
: eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.11
 
Tuning ranges:
* 13-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = [160.000, 163.636] (2\15 to 3\22)
* 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = 163.636 (3\22)
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~11/10 = [138.573, 182.404]
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 15, 22f, 37f }}
 
Badness (Smith): 0.021276
 
==== Porcupinefish ====
{{See also| The Biosphere }}
{{See also| The Biosphere }}


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Badness (Smith): 0.025314
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 66/65
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 4 | 0 -3 -5 6 -4 -2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.442
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.708
Minimax tuning:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~10/9 = {{monzo| 1 0 0 0 -1/4 }}
: eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.11
Tuning ranges:
* 13-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = [160.000, 163.636] (2\15 to 3\22)
* 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = 163.636 (3\22)
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~11/10 = [138.573, 182.404]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 15, 22f, 37f }}
Badness (Smith): 0.021276


==== Pourcup ====
==== Pourcup ====