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EDOS: 19, 41, 470
EDOS: 19, 41, 470
Badness: 0.0215
Badness: 0.0215
===Sorcery===
Commas: 65/64, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.477
Map: [&lt;1 0 2 -1 6 4|, &lt;1 0 5 12 -8 -1|]
EDOs: 19, 22, 41
Badness: 0.0258


==Telepathy==
==Telepathy==
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&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:21 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22: --&gt;&lt;div style="margin-left: 2em;"&gt;&lt;a href="#Magic-Telepathy"&gt;Telepathy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is 3125/3072, the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is |-10 -1 5&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 -10|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)^5 = 3 * 3125/3072. 13/41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19/60 also makes sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; is always possible.&lt;br /&gt;
The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is 3125/3072, the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is |-10 -1 5&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 -10|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)^5 = 3 * 3125/3072. 13/41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19/60 also makes sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; is always possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0215&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0215&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 65/64, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.477&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 2 -1 6 4|, &amp;lt;1 0 5 12 -8 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 19, 22, 41&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0258&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 55/54, 99/98, 176/175&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 55/54, 99/98, 176/175&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0271&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0271&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0255&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0255&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from 3125/3072 and 525/512 muggles also tempers out 126/125 and 1323/1280. A good muggles tuning is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt;, in which tuning it's the same thing as magic. Muggles works better for small scales than magic in the sense that 7 or 10 note MOS are reasonable choices. The muggles wedgie is &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 -7 -10 -25 -19||.&lt;br /&gt;
Aside from 3125/3072 and 525/512 muggles also tempers out 126/125 and 1323/1280. A good muggles tuning is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt;, in which tuning it's the same thing as magic. Muggles works better for small scales than magic in the sense that 7 or 10 note MOS are reasonable choices. The muggles wedgie is &amp;lt;&amp;lt;5 1 -7 -10 -25 -19||.&lt;br /&gt;
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