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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6>, and flipping that yields <<6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using [[19edo]] is possible. Other tunings include [[72edo]], [[87edo]] and [[140edo]]. | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6>, and flipping that yields <<6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using [[19edo]] is possible. Other tunings include [[72edo]], [[87edo]] and [[140edo]]. | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 317.007 | |||
Map: [<1 0 1|, <0 6 5|] | |||
==Seven limit children== | ==Seven limit children== | ||
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator. | The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator. | ||
===Keemun=== | |||
[[Comma|Commas]]: 49/48, 126/125 | |||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 316.473 | |||
Map: [<1 0 1 2|, <0 6 5 3|] | |||
===Clyde=== | ===Clyde=== | ||
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[|1 0 0 0>, |6/25 0 0 12/25>, |6/5 0 0 2/5>, |0 0 0 1>] | [|1 0 0 0>, |6/25 0 0 12/25>, |6/5 0 0 2/5>, |0 0 0 1>] | ||
[[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 7 | [[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 7 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 441.335 | |||
Algebraic generator: real root of 5x^3-6x-3, the Poussami generator. Approximately 441.309 [[Cent|cents]]. Associated recurrence relationship quickly converges. | Algebraic generator: real root of 5x^3-6x-3, the Poussami generator. Approximately 441.309 [[Cent|cents]]. Associated recurrence relationship quickly converges. | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Kleismic family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a> is possible. Other tunings include <a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo">72edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo">87edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo">140edo</a>.<br /> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Kleismic family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a> is possible. Other tunings include <a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo">72edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo">87edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo">140edo</a>.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 317.007<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;1 0 1|, &lt;0 6 5|]<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc0"><a name="x-Seven limit children"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Seven limit children</h2> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc0"><a name="x-Seven limit children"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Seven limit children</h2> | ||
The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.<br /> | The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 49/48, 126/125<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 316.473<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;1 0 1 2|, &lt;0 6 5 3|]<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 245/243, 3136/3125<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 245/243, 3136/3125<br /> | ||
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[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |6/25 0 0 12/25&gt;, |6/5 0 0 2/5&gt;, |0 0 0 1&gt;]<br /> | [|1 0 0 0&gt;, |6/25 0 0 12/25&gt;, |6/5 0 0 2/5&gt;, |0 0 0 1&gt;]<br /> | ||
<a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo">Eigenmonzos</a>: 2, 7<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo">Eigenmonzos</a>: 2, 7<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 441.335<br /> | |||
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Algebraic generator: real root of 5x^3-6x-3, the Poussami generator. Approximately 441.309 <a class="wiki_link" href="/Cent">cents</a>. Associated recurrence relationship quickly converges.<br /> | Algebraic generator: real root of 5x^3-6x-3, the Poussami generator. Approximately 441.309 <a class="wiki_link" href="/Cent">cents</a>. Associated recurrence relationship quickly converges.<br /> | ||
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The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6>, and flipping that yields <<6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using [[19edo]] is possible. Other tunings include [[72edo]], [[87edo]] and [[140edo]]. [[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 317.007 Map: [<1 0 1|, <0 6 5|] ==Seven limit children== The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator. ===Keemun=== [[Comma|Commas]]: 49/48, 126/125 [[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 316.473 Map: [<1 0 1 2|, <0 6 5 3|] ===Clyde=== [[Comma|Commas]]: 245/243, 3136/3125 7 and 9 limit minimax [|1 0 0 0>, |6/25 0 0 12/25>, |6/5 0 0 2/5>, |0 0 0 1>] [[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 7 [[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 441.335 Algebraic generator: real root of 5x^3-6x-3, the Poussami generator. Approximately 441.309 [[Cent|cents]]. Associated recurrence relationship quickly converges. Map: [<1 6 6 12|, <0 -12 -10 -25|] [[Generator|Generators]]: 2, 9/7 [[Edo|Edos]]: [[19edo|19]], [[49edo|49]], [[68edo|68]], [[87edo|87]], [[155edo|155]]
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<html><head><title>Kleismic family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6>, and flipping that yields <<6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a> is possible. Other tunings include <a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo">72edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo">87edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo">140edo</a>.<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 317.007<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 1|, <0 6 5|]<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h2> --><h2 id="toc0"><a name="x-Seven limit children"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Seven limit children</h2> The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h3> --><h3 id="toc1"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Keemun"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Keemun</h3> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 49/48, 126/125<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 316.473<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 1 2|, <0 6 5 3|]<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h3> --><h3 id="toc2"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Clyde"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Clyde</h3> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 245/243, 3136/3125<br /> <br /> 7 and 9 limit minimax<br /> [|1 0 0 0>, |6/25 0 0 12/25>, |6/5 0 0 2/5>, |0 0 0 1>]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo">Eigenmonzos</a>: 2, 7<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 441.335<br /> <br /> Algebraic generator: real root of 5x^3-6x-3, the Poussami generator. Approximately 441.309 <a class="wiki_link" href="/Cent">cents</a>. Associated recurrence relationship quickly converges.<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 6 6 12|, <0 -12 -10 -25|]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Generator">Generators</a>: 2, 9/7<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Edo">Edos</a>: <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/49edo">49</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo">87</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/155edo">155</a></body></html>