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where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.
where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.


(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 &lt; j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 &lt; &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.
(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 less than &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.


(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 &lt;  j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 &lt; &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.
(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 less than &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.


(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 &lt; mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.
(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 less than mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.


==Example==
==Example==
For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in [[53edo]], or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.
For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in [[53edo]], or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.
After applying such a tuning, we discover than there seems to be a certain irregularity or inconsistency in action, in that some of the 11-limit intervals do not stem from the mapping for minerva, but represent additional temperings by 243/242 or 4000/3993. By adding one of these, we can flatten out the irregularity to a corresponding rank two temperament; by adding both, we obtain the rank one temperament with val &lt;65 103 151 183 225|, giving a scale with steps 2433333242432424233333. This sort of thing seems to happen fairly often with hobbit scales.


If we use the minimax tuning, we find that </pre></div>
If we use the minimax tuning, we find that </pre></div>
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where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.&lt;br /&gt;
where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.&lt;br /&gt;
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(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 &amp;lt; j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &amp;lt;v|m&amp;gt; = j, 0 &amp;lt; &amp;lt;J|m&amp;gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &amp;lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.&lt;br /&gt;
(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &amp;lt;v|m&amp;gt; = j, 0 less than &amp;lt;J|m&amp;gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &amp;lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.&lt;br /&gt;
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(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &amp;gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 &amp;lt;  j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &amp;lt;v|m&amp;gt; = j, 0 &amp;lt; &amp;lt;J|m&amp;gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.&lt;br /&gt;
(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &amp;gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &amp;lt;v|m&amp;gt; = j, 0 less than &amp;lt;J|m&amp;gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.&lt;br /&gt;
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(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 &amp;lt; mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 less than mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &amp;lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&amp;gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&amp;gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt;, or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.&lt;br /&gt;
For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &amp;lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&amp;gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&amp;gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt;, or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After applying such a tuning, we discover than there seems to be a certain irregularity or inconsistency in action, in that some of the 11-limit intervals do not stem from the mapping for minerva, but represent additional temperings by 243/242 or 4000/3993. By adding one of these, we can flatten out the irregularity to a corresponding rank two temperament; by adding both, we obtain the rank one temperament with val &amp;lt;65 103 151 183 225|, giving a scale with steps 2433333242432424233333. This sort of thing seems to happen fairly often with hobbit scales.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we use the minimax tuning, we find that&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>

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A //hobbit scale// is a generalization of [[MOSScales|MOS]] for arbitrary regular temperaments which is a sort of cousin to [[Dwarves|dwarf scales]]. Given a regular temperament and an equal temperament val v which supports (or belongs to) the temperament, there is a unique scale for the temperament, which can be tuned to any tuning of the temperament, containing v[1] notes to the octave.

==Definition==
To define the hobbit scale we first define a particular [[http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html|seminorm]] on interval space. This seminorm applies to [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzos]] and has the property that the seminorm of a comma of the temperament, or of the unison, the octave and any power of two is 0. It may be defined as follows:

(1) If o = |1 0 0 ... 0> is the monzo for 2 in the [[Harmonic Limit|p-limit]] group.

(2) c1, c2, ..., ci are monzos for a basis for the commas of the temperament.

(3) Form the (i+1)**x**n matrix N = [o, c1, c2, ..., ci] whose rows consist of o and the commas ck.

(4) Monzo weight N by multiplying on the right by a n**x**n diagonal matrix D consisting of log2(qk) along the diagonal, where qk are the primes from 2 to p, obtaining M = ND.

(5) Now find Q = M`M, where M` is the [[RMS tuning|Moore-Penrose pseudoinverse]] of M. On the assumption that the ck form a basis for the commas, then M has linearly independent rows, and by a property of the pseudoinverse, M` = M*(MM*)^(-1), where M* is the transpose of M, so that Q = M*(MM*)^(1)M.

(6) Let P = I - Q, where I is the identity matrix.

(7) For a p-limit monzo or [[Fractional monzos|fractional monzo]] m we now define the seminorm

||m||_s = ||mDP||

where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.

(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that <v|m> = j, 0 less than <J|m> less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping <log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.

(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s > 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that <v|m> = j, 0 less than <J|m> less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.

(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 less than mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.

==Example==
For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is <22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0>. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0>, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in [[53edo]], or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.

After applying such a tuning, we discover than there seems to be a certain irregularity or inconsistency in action, in that some of the 11-limit intervals do not stem from the mapping for minerva, but represent additional temperings by 243/242 or 4000/3993. By adding one of these, we can flatten out the irregularity to a corresponding rank two temperament; by adding both, we obtain the rank one temperament with val <65 103 151 183 225|, giving a scale with steps 2433333242432424233333. This sort of thing seems to happen fairly often with hobbit scales.

If we use the minimax tuning, we find that 

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<html><head><title>Hobbits</title></head><body>A <em>hobbit scale</em> is a generalization of <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">MOS</a> for arbitrary regular temperaments which is a sort of cousin to <a class="wiki_link" href="/Dwarves">dwarf scales</a>. Given a regular temperament and an equal temperament val v which supports (or belongs to) the temperament, there is a unique scale for the temperament, which can be tuned to any tuning of the temperament, containing v[1] notes to the octave.<br />
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To define the hobbit scale we first define a particular <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html" rel="nofollow">seminorm</a> on interval space. This seminorm applies to <a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space">monzos</a> and has the property that the seminorm of a comma of the temperament, or of the unison, the octave and any power of two is 0. It may be defined as follows:<br />
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(1) If o = |1 0 0 ... 0&gt; is the monzo for 2 in the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit">p-limit</a> group.<br />
<br />
(2) c1, c2, ..., ci are monzos for a basis for the commas of the temperament.<br />
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(3) Form the (i+1)<strong>x</strong>n matrix N = [o, c1, c2, ..., ci] whose rows consist of o and the commas ck.<br />
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(4) Monzo weight N by multiplying on the right by a n<strong>x</strong>n diagonal matrix D consisting of log2(qk) along the diagonal, where qk are the primes from 2 to p, obtaining M = ND.<br />
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(5) Now find Q = M`M, where M` is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/RMS%20tuning">Moore-Penrose pseudoinverse</a> of M. On the assumption that the ck form a basis for the commas, then M has linearly independent rows, and by a property of the pseudoinverse, M` = M*(MM*)^(-1), where M* is the transpose of M, so that Q = M*(MM*)^(1)M.<br />
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(6) Let P = I - Q, where I is the identity matrix.<br />
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(7) For a p-limit monzo or <a class="wiki_link" href="/Fractional%20monzos">fractional monzo</a> m we now define the seminorm<br />
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</td>
        <td>mDP<br />
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<br />
where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.<br />
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(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 less than &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.<br />
<br />
(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 less than j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 less than &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.<br />
<br />
(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 less than mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.<br />
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For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in <a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo">53edo</a>, or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.<br />
<br />
After applying such a tuning, we discover than there seems to be a certain irregularity or inconsistency in action, in that some of the 11-limit intervals do not stem from the mapping for minerva, but represent additional temperings by 243/242 or 4000/3993. By adding one of these, we can flatten out the irregularity to a corresponding rank two temperament; by adding both, we obtain the rank one temperament with val &lt;65 103 151 183 225|, giving a scale with steps 2433333242432424233333. This sort of thing seems to happen fairly often with hobbit scales.<br />
<br />
If we use the minimax tuning, we find that</body></html>