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Tempering out this comma leads to a form of '''major minthmic temperament''' (full 13-limit rank-5) or '''majorminth temperament''' (2.3.11.13 subgroup rank-3), which enables [[major minthmic chords]].

== Sagittal notation ==

== Notation ==

=== Sagittal notation ===

In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented (in a secondary role) by the sagittal {{sagittal | !( }} and is called the '''13/11 kleisma''', or '''13/11k''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 13/11, as for example in D-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | !( }}. The primary role of {{ sagittal | !( }} is [[5120/5103#Sagittal notation | 5103/5120]] (7/5k). The upward version is called '''11/13k''' or '''13/11k up''' and is represented (in a secondary role) by {{sagittal| |( }}.

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This comma was known as the ''minthma'' from 2011. The word ''minthma'' is a contraction of ''minor thirds comma'' into a single word. In 2022, [[Margo Schulter]] requested it should be changed to ''major''/''greater minthma'' to distinguish it from [[364/363]], which would gain the name ''minor''/''lesser minthma''.

The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament. ~~The reason why~~ the ~~temperament was named “gentle” in~~ the ~~first place does not appear to be written down anywhere~~.

The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament. Gentle is named for the [[gentle region|gentle fifth]], a mild version of the [[superpyth]] fifth.

== See also ==

* [[Small comma]]

* [[List of superparticular intervals]]

[[Category:Major minthmic]]

[[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]

[[Category:Commas ~~with unknown etymology~~]]

[[Category:Commas named for the generator of their temperament]]

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 Tempering out this comma leads to a form of '''major minthmic temperament''' (full 13-limit rank-5) or '''majorminth temperament''' (2.3.11.13 subgroup rank-3), which enables [[major minthmic chords]].
-== Sagittal notation ==
+== Notation ==
+=== Sagittal notation ===
 In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented (in a secondary role) by the sagittal {{sagittal | !( }} and is called the '''13/11 kleisma''', or '''13/11k''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 13/11, as for example in D-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | !( }}. The primary role of {{ sagittal | !( }} is [[5120/5103#Sagittal notation | 5103/5120]] (7/5k). The upward version is called '''11/13k''' or '''13/11k up''' and is represented (in a secondary role) by {{sagittal| |( }}.
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 This comma was known as the ''minthma'' from 2011. The word ''minthma'' is a contraction of ''minor thirds comma'' into a single word. In 2022, [[Margo Schulter]] requested it should be changed to ''major''/''greater minthma'' to distinguish it from [[364/363]], which would gain the name ''minor''/''lesser minthma''.
-The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament. The reason why the temperament was named “gentle” in the first place does not appear to be written down anywhere.
+The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament. Gentle is named for the [[gentle region|gentle fifth]], a mild version of the [[superpyth]] fifth.
 == See also ==
-* [[Small comma]]
 * [[List of superparticular intervals]]
 [[Category:Major minthmic]]
 [[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]
-[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]
+[[Category:Commas named for the generator of their temperament]]