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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Thoughts on where this wiki could/should/will go: [[wikifuture]]. Discuss as needed.
 
=A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets=
 
===A disclaimer===
 
Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'.  They forget that talking IS doing //something//.  From [[http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm|Paolo Friere]] (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), //mere// action is just as undesirable as //mere// words.
 
===A word of advice===
 
Everything said is said by someone.  To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.
 
==Active discussion lists==
 
[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/|Yahoo tuning list]] - the oldest mailing list about tuning.  If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers.  A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the [[tuning regulars|"regulars"]].
 
[[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/|Yahoo tuning-math list]] - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy.  Much of [[contemporary temperament theory]] was developed by people here.
 
[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/|Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list]] - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music!  The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.
 
[[http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/|nonoctave forum]] - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.</pre></div>
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Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'.  They forget that talking IS doing &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt;.  From &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Paolo Friere&lt;/a&gt; (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), &lt;em&gt;mere&lt;/em&gt; action is just as undesirable as &lt;em&gt;mere&lt;/em&gt; words.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc2"&gt;&lt;a name="A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets--A word of advice"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 --&gt;A word of advice&lt;/h3&gt;
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Everything said is said by someone.  To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but who says it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets-Active discussion lists"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --&gt;Active discussion lists&lt;/h2&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo tuning list&lt;/a&gt; - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers.  A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tuning%20regulars"&gt;&amp;quot;regulars&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo tuning-math list&lt;/a&gt; - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy.  Much of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/contemporary%20temperament%20theory"&gt;contemporary temperament theory&lt;/a&gt; was developed by people here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list&lt;/a&gt; - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music!  The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/" rel="nofollow"&gt;nonoctave forum&lt;/a&gt; - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>