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[[Mos scale]]s may not be the best approach for würschmidt since they are even more extreme than those of [[magic]]. [[Proper]] scales do not appear until 28, 31 or even 34 notes, depending on the specific tuning.  
[[Mos scale]]s may not be the best approach for würschmidt since they are even more extreme than those of [[magic]]. [[Proper]] scales do not appear until 28, 31 or even 34 notes, depending on the specific tuning.  
The 7-limit extensions can be obtained by adding another comma. Septimal würschmidt adds [[225/224]], worschmidt adds [[126/125]], whirrschmidt adds [[4375/4374]]. These all use the same generator as 5-limit würschmidt.
Hemiwürschmidt adds [[3136/3125]] and splits the generator in two. This temperament is the best extension available for würschmidt despite its complexity. The details can be found in [[Hemimean clan #Hemiwürschmidt|Hemimean clan]].


== Würschmidt ==
== Würschmidt ==
{{main|Würschmidt}}
{{Main| Würschmidt }}


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 2 | 0 8 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 2 | 0 8 1 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.799
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5/4


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 28, 31, 34, 65, 99, 164, 721c, 885c }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.734
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.799
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, …, 28, 31, 34, 65, 99, 164, 721c, 885c, 1049cc, 1213ccc }}


[[Badness]]: 0.040603
[[Badness]]: 0.040603


=== Subgroup extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== 7-limit extensions ====
The 7-limit extensions can be obtained by adding another comma. Septimal würschmidt adds [[225/224]], worschmidt adds [[126/125]], whirrschmidt adds [[4375/4374]]. These all use the same generator as 5-limit würschmidt.
 
Hemiwürschmidt adds [[3136/3125]] and splits the generator in two. This temperament is the best extension available for würschmidt despite its complexity. The details can be found in [[Hemimean clan #Hemiwürschmidt|Hemimean clan]].
 
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Given that würschmidt naturally produces a neutral third at the interval 4 generators up, an obvious extension to prime 11 exists by equating this to [[11/9]], that is by tempering out [[5632/5625]] in addition to [[243/242]]; furthermore, like practically any 5-limit temperament with this accuracy level of [[3/2]] available, extensions to prime 19 exist by tempering out either [[513/512]] or [[1216/1215]] (which meet at 65edo and [[nestoria]]).
Given that würschmidt naturally produces a neutral third at the interval 4 generators up, an obvious extension to prime 11 exists by equating this to [[11/9]], that is by tempering out [[5632/5625]] in addition to [[243/242]]; furthermore, like practically any 5-limit temperament with this accuracy level of [[3/2]] available, extensions to prime 19 exist by tempering out either [[513/512]] or [[1216/1215]] (which meet at 65edo and [[nestoria]]).


However, as discussed in the main article, the "free" higher prime for würschmidt outside the 5-limit is in fact 23, via tempering out S24 = [[576/575]] and S46<sup>2</sup> × S47 = [[12167/12150]]. Therefore, the below discusses the 2.3.5.23 and 2.3.5.11.23 extensions.
However, as discussed in the main article, the "free" higher prime for würschmidt outside the 5-limit is in fact 23, via tempering out S24 = [[576/575]] and S46<sup>2</sup> × S47 = [[12167/12150]]. Therefore, the below discusses the 2.3.5.23 and 2.3.5.11.23 extensions.


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=== 2.3.5.23 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.23
 
Comma list: 576/575, 12167/12150


==== 2.3.5.23 subgroup ====
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 2 0 | 0 8 1 14 }}
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.23


[[Comma list]]: 576/575, 12167/12150
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.734
* POTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.805


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 2 0 | 0 8 1 14 }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{optimal ET sequence| 3, …, 28i, 31, 34, 65, 99, 164 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.805
Badness (Smith): 0.00530


==== 2.3.5.11.23 subgroup ====
==== 2.3.5.11.23 subgroup ====
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.11.23
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.23
 
Comma list: 243/242, 276/275, 529/528
 
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 2 -3 0 | 0 8 1 20 14 }}


[[Comma list]]: 243/242, 276/275, 529/528
Optimal tuning:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.652
* POTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.690


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 2 -3 0 | 0 8 1 20 14 }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{optimal ET sequence| 31, 34, 65 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.690
Badness (Smith): 0.00660


== Septimal würschmidt ==
== Septimal würschmidt ==