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A limit-raising fudger is a p-limit interval which approximates to a q-limit consonance, with p<q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of [[13_10|13/10]], and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony "for free", so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.

By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales.

By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.

==Fudging Intervals==

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A limit-raising fudger is a p-limit interval which approximates to a q-limit consonance, with p&lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of <a class="wiki_link" href="/13_10">13/10</a>, and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony &quot;for free&quot;, so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.<br />

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By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales.<br />

By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.<br />

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 A limit-raising fudger is a p-limit interval which approximates to a q-limit consonance, with p&lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of [[13_10|13/10]], and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony "for free", so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.
-By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales.
+By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.
 ==Fudging Intervals==
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 A limit-raising fudger is a p-limit interval which approximates to a q-limit consonance, with p&amp;lt;q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_10"&gt;13/10&lt;/a&gt;, and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony &amp;quot;for free&amp;quot;, so to speak. A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit.&lt;br /&gt;
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-By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales.&lt;br /&gt;
+By tempering out the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, 112/75, 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas 676/675, 364/363, 352/351, 243/242 and 225/224. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
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