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'''Ed9/4''' means '''Division of of the Pythagorean ninth ([[9/4]]) into n equal parts'''.
The '''equal division of 9/4''' ('''ed9/4''') is a [[tuning]] obtained by dividing the [[9/4|Pythagorean ninth (9/4)]] in a certain number of [[equal]] steps.  


== Properties ==
== Properties ==


Division of e.g. the 9:4 into equal parts can be conceived of as to directly use this interval as an equivalence, or not. The question of [[equivalence]] has not even been posed yet. The utility of 9:4 or another major ninth as a base though, is apparent by being the standard replacement for the root in jazz piano voicings. Also, as a ninth is the double of a fifth, the fifth of normal root position triads will become the common suspension (5-4 or 5-6) of a ninth-based system. However, thirds and sixths are no longer inverses, and thus an [[Pseudo-traditional_harmonic_functions_of_octatonic_scale_degrees|octatonic scale]] (i. e. any of those of the proper Napoli temperament family which are generated by a fourth optionally with a period equivalent to three or six macrotones, in particular ones at least as wide as 101.083 cents) takes 1-3-6, which is not equivalent to a tone cluster as it would be in an [[EDF|edf]] tuning, as the root position of its regular triad. Many, though not all, of these scales have a pseudo (false) octave, with various degrees of accuracy.
Division of 9/4 into equal parts does not necessarily imply directly using this interval as an [[equivalence]]. The question of equivalence has not even been posed yet. The utility of 9/4 or another major ninth as a base though, is apparent by being the standard replacement for the root in jazz piano voicings. Also, as a ninth is the double of a fifth, the fifth of normal root position triads will become the common suspension (5-4 or 5-6) of a ninth-based system. However, thirds and sixths are no longer inverses, and thus an [[Pseudo-traditional harmonic functions of octatonic scale degrees|octatonic scale]] (i. e. any of those of the proper Napoli temperament family which are generated by a fourth optionally with a period equivalent to three or six macrotones, in particular ones at least as wide as 101.083 cents) takes 1-3-6, which is not equivalent to a tone cluster as it would be in an [[edf]] tuning, as the root position of its regular triad. Many, though not all, of these scales have a false octave, with various degrees of accuracy.


Incidentally, one way to treat 9/4 as an equivalence is the use of the 5:6:8 chord as the fundamental complete sonority in a very similar way to the 4:5:6:(8) chord in meantone. Whereas in meantone it takes four 3/2 to get to 5/1, here it takes four 9/8 to get to 8/5 (tempering out the schisma). So, doing this yields 6, 8, 14 and 20 or 22 note 2MOS. While the notes are rather farther apart, the scheme is uncannily similar to certain versions of the regularly tempered approximate ("full"-status) [[A_shruti_list|shrutis]]. "Macroshrutis" might be a practically perfect term for it if it hasn't been named yet.
Incidentally, one way to treat 9/4 as an equivalence is the use of the 5:6:8 chord as the fundamental complete sonority in a very similar way to the 4:5:6:(8) chord in meantone. Whereas in meantone it takes four 3/2 to get to 5/1, here it takes four 9/8 to get to 8/5 (tempering out the schisma). So, doing this yields 6-, 8-, 14- and 20- or 22-note [[2mos]]. While the notes are rather farther apart, the scheme is uncannily similar to certain versions of the regularly tempered approximate ("full"-status) [[A shruti list|shrutis]]. "Macroshrutis" might be a practically perfect term for it if it has not been named yet.


The branches of the Napoli family are named thus:
The branches of the Napoli family are named thus:
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Surprisingly, though sort of obviously, due to 9/4 being the primary attractor for Neapolitan temperaments, the golden and pyrite tunings of edIXs must be forced to turn out to divide a (nearly) pure 9:4 (in particular, using Aeolian mode gives the [[2/7-comma meantone]] major ninth as almost exactly the pyrite tuning of the period, or (8φ+6)/(7φ+5).
Surprisingly, though sort of obviously, due to 9/4 being the primary attractor for Neapolitan temperaments, the golden and pyrite tunings of edIXs must be forced to turn out to divide a (nearly) pure 9:4 (in particular, using Aeolian mode gives the [[2/7-comma meantone]] major ninth as almost exactly the pyrite tuning of the period, or (8φ+6)/(7φ+5).


==Individual pages for ed9/4s==
== Individual pages for ed9/4's ==
* [[8ed9/4]]
* [[8ed9/4]]
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* [[17ed9/4]]         
* [[17ed9/4]]         


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