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==Seven limit children== | ==Seven limit children== | ||
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie <<2 1 6 -3 4 11|| adds 28/27, retaining the same period and generator | The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie <<2 1 3 -3 -1 4|| adds 36/35, sharp with wedgie <<2 1 6 -3 4 11|| adds 28/27, both retaining the same period and generator. Decimal with wedgie <<4 2 2 -6 -8 -1|| adds 49/48, and sidi with wedgie <<4 2 9 -3 6 15|| adds 245/243. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth. | ||
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The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 1 6 -3 4 11|| adds 28/27, retaining the same period and generator | The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 1 3 -3 -1 4|| adds 36/35, sharp with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 1 6 -3 4 11|| adds 28/27, both retaining the same period and generator. Decimal with wedgie &lt;&lt;4 2 2 -6 -8 -1|| adds 49/48, and sidi with wedgie &lt;&lt;4 2 9 -3 6 15|| adds 245/243. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth.</body></html></pre></div> | ||
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The 5-limit parent comma for the dicot family is 25/24, the [[chromatic semitone]]. Its [[monzo]] is |-3 -1 2>, and flipping that yields <<2 1 -3|| for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the generator is a third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two thirds gives a fifth. In fact, (5/4)^2 = 3/2 * 25/24. Possible tunings for dicot are [[7edo]], [[24edo]] using the val <24 38 55| and [[31edo]] using the val <31 49 71|. In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that's 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all. ==Seven limit children== The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie <<2 1 3 -3 -1 4|| adds 36/35, sharp with wedgie <<2 1 6 -3 4 11|| adds 28/27, both retaining the same period and generator. Decimal with wedgie <<4 2 2 -6 -8 -1|| adds 49/48, and sidi with wedgie <<4 2 9 -3 6 15|| adds 245/243. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth.
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<html><head><title>Dicot family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the dicot family is 25/24, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/chromatic%20semitone">chromatic semitone</a>. Its <a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo">monzo</a> is |-3 -1 2>, and flipping that yields <<2 1 -3|| for the <a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie">wedgie</a>. This tells us the generator is a third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two thirds gives a fifth. In fact, (5/4)^2 = 3/2 * 25/24. Possible tunings for dicot are <a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo">7edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo">24edo</a> using the val <24 38 55| and <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a> using the val <31 49 71|. In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that's 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h2> --><h2 id="toc0"><a name="x-Seven limit children"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Seven limit children</h2> The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie <<2 1 3 -3 -1 4|| adds 36/35, sharp with wedgie <<2 1 6 -3 4 11|| adds 28/27, both retaining the same period and generator. Decimal with wedgie <<4 2 2 -6 -8 -1|| adds 49/48, and sidi with wedgie <<4 2 9 -3 6 15|| adds 245/243. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth.</body></html>