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Commas: 25/24, 81/80
Commas: 25/24, 81/80


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 86.710
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 258.139


Map: [&lt;7 11 16 20|, &lt;0 0 0 -1|]
Map: [&lt;7 11 16 0|, &lt;0 0 0 1|]
EDOs: 7, [[14edo|14c]]
EDOs: 7, [[14edo|14c]]


==11-limit==
==11-limit==
11-limit jamesbond is also called septimal.
11-limit jamesbond is called "septimal" on the Regular Temperament Finder.


Commas: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44
Commas: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 258.910


Map: [&lt;7 11 16 0 24|, &lt;0 0 0 1 0|]
Map: [&lt;7 11 16 0 24|, &lt;0 0 0 1 0|]
EDOs: 7, 14c
EDOs: 7, 14c
Badness: 0.0235
Badness: 0.0235
==13-limit==
Commas: 25/24 27/26 33/32 45/44
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 250.764
Map: [&lt;7 11 16 0 24 26|, &lt;0 0 0 1 0 0|]
EDOs: 7, 14c
Badness: 0.0230


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&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:58 --&gt;The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; parent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/comma"&gt;comma&lt;/a&gt; for the dicot family is 25/24, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/chromatic%20semitone"&gt;chromatic semitone&lt;/a&gt;. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |-3 -1 2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 1 -3|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the generator is a third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two thirds gives a fifth. In fact, (5/4)^2 = 3/2 * 25/24. Possible tunings for dicot are &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo"&gt;7edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;24 38 55| and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;31 49 71|. In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that's 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending, dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:61 --&gt;The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; parent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/comma"&gt;comma&lt;/a&gt; for the dicot family is 25/24, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/chromatic%20semitone"&gt;chromatic semitone&lt;/a&gt;. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |-3 -1 2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 1 -3|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the generator is a third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two thirds gives a fifth. In fact, (5/4)^2 = 3/2 * 25/24. Possible tunings for dicot are &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo"&gt;7edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;24 38 55| and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;31 49 71|. In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that's 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending, dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 25/24, 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 25/24, 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 86.710&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~8/7 = 258.139&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;7 11 16 20|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;7 11 16 0|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 7, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14edo"&gt;14c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 7, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14edo"&gt;14c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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11-limit jamesbond is also called septimal.&lt;br /&gt;
11-limit jamesbond is called &amp;quot;septimal&amp;quot; on the Regular Temperament Finder.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 258.910&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;7 11 16 0 24|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 1 0|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;7 11 16 0 24|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 1 0|]&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0235&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0235&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24 27/26 33/32 45/44&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 250.764&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;7 11 16 0 24 26|, &amp;lt;0 0 0 1 0 0|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 7, 14c&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0230&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 25/24, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 25/24, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0566&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0566&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0330&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0330&lt;br /&gt;
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  Commas: 9/8, 25/24&lt;br /&gt;
  Commas: 9/8, 25/24&lt;br /&gt;
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