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====11-limit==== | ====11-limit==== | ||
Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891 | Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891 | ||
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Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie <<2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&56 temperament. [[78edo|78et]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, <<2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas. | Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie <<2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&56 temperament. [[78edo|78et]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, <<2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas. | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: | Commas: 2048/2025, 875/864 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.571 | |||
Map: [<2 0 11 -23|, <0 1 -2 9|] | |||
EDOs: 22, 56, 78 | |||
====11-limit==== | ====11-limit==== | ||
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215 | |||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.609 | |||
Map: [<2 0 11 -23 26|, <0 1 -2 9 -6|] | |||
EDOs: 22, 56, 78 | |||
===Echidna=== | ===Echidna=== | ||
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Echidna becomes more interesting when extended to be an 11-limit temperament by adding 176/175, 896/891 or 540/539 to the commas, where the same tunings can be used as before. It then is able to represent the entire 11-limit diamond to within about six cents of error, within a compass of 24 notes. The 28 note 2MOS gives scope for this, and the 36 note MOS much more. | Echidna becomes more interesting when extended to be an 11-limit temperament by adding 176/175, 896/891 or 540/539 to the commas, where the same tunings can be used as before. It then is able to represent the entire 11-limit diamond to within about six cents of error, within a compass of 24 notes. The 28 note 2MOS gives scope for this, and the 36 note MOS much more. | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: | Commas: 2048/2025, 1728/1715 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.856 | |||
Map: [<2 1 9 2|, <0 3 -6 5|] | |||
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218 | |||
====11-limit==== | ====11-limit==== | ||
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539 | |||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.852 | |||
Map: [<2 1 9 2 12|, <0 3 -6 5 -7|] | |||
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218 | |||
===Shrutar=== | ===Shrutar=== | ||
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By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings. | By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings. | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: | Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243 | ||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 52.811 | |||
Map: [<2 1 9 -2|, <0 2 -4 7|] | |||
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250 | |||
====11-limit==== | ====11-limit==== | ||
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120 | |||
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 52.680 | |||
Map: [<2 1 9 -2 8|, <0 2 -4 7 -1|] | |||
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410</pre></div> | |||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Diaschismic family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a> is a good tuning choice, with <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo">56edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80edo</a> being other possibilities. Both <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.<br /> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Diaschismic family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a> is a good tuning choice, with <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo">56edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80edo</a> being other possibilities. Both <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891<br /> | ||
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Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;56 temperament. <a class="wiki_link" href="/78edo">78et</a> is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.<br /> | Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;56 temperament. <a class="wiki_link" href="/78edo">78et</a> is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>:<br /> | Commas: 2048/2025, 875/864<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 707.571<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -23|, &lt;0 1 -2 9|]<br /> | |||
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EDOs: 22, 56, 78<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:&lt;h4&gt; --><h4 id="toc8"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Keen-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 -->11-limit</h4> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:&lt;h4&gt; --><h4 id="toc8"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Keen-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 -->11-limit</h4> | ||
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 707.609<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -23 26|, &lt;0 1 -2 9 -6|]<br /> | |||
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EDOs: 22, 56, 78<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc9"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Echidna"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 -->Echidna</h3> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc9"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Echidna"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 -->Echidna</h3> | ||
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Echidna becomes more interesting when extended to be an 11-limit temperament by adding 176/175, 896/891 or 540/539 to the commas, where the same tunings can be used as before. It then is able to represent the entire 11-limit diamond to within about six cents of error, within a compass of 24 notes. The 28 note 2MOS gives scope for this, and the 36 note MOS much more.<br /> | Echidna becomes more interesting when extended to be an 11-limit temperament by adding 176/175, 896/891 or 540/539 to the commas, where the same tunings can be used as before. It then is able to represent the entire 11-limit diamond to within about six cents of error, within a compass of 24 notes. The 28 note 2MOS gives scope for this, and the 36 note MOS much more.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>:<br /> | Commas: 2048/2025, 1728/1715<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 434.856<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2|, &lt;0 3 -6 5|]<br /> | |||
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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:20:&lt;h4&gt; --><h4 id="toc10"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Echidna-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:20 -->11-limit</h4> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:20:&lt;h4&gt; --><h4 id="toc10"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Echidna-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:20 -->11-limit</h4> | ||
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 434.852<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7|]<br /> | |||
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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:22:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc11"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Shrutar"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:22 -->Shrutar</h3> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:22:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc11"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Shrutar"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:22 -->Shrutar</h3> | ||
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By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.<br /> | By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>:<br /> | Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 52.811<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2|, &lt;0 2 -4 7|]<br /> | |||
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:24:&lt;h4&gt; --><h4 id="toc12"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Shrutar-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:24 -->11-limit</h4> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:24:&lt;h4&gt; --><h4 id="toc12"><a name="x-Seven limit children-Shrutar-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:24 -->11-limit</h4> | ||
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 52.680<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]<br /> | |||
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410</body></html></pre></div> | |||