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The interval 64/63, called **septimal comma** or **Archytas' comma** or (in German) **[[@http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komma_%28Musik%29#Leipziger_Komma|Leipziger Komma]]**, is a [[xenharmonic/superparticular|superparticular ratio]] which equates [[xenharmonic/9_8|9/8]] and [[xenharmonic/8_7|8/7]] if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates [[xenharmonic/7_4|7/4]] with [[xenharmonic/16_9|16/9]], so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59. | The interval 64/63, called **septimal comma** or **Archytas' comma** or (in German) **[[@http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komma_%28Musik%29#Leipziger_Komma|Leipziger Komma]]**, is a [[xenharmonic/superparticular|superparticular ratio]] which equates [[xenharmonic/9_8|9/8]] and [[xenharmonic/8_7|8/7]] if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates [[xenharmonic/7_4|7/4]] with [[xenharmonic/16_9|16/9]], so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59. | ||
The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 >. | The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 >. It is | ||
27.264092 cents in size. | |||
It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that [[Porcupine family|Porcupine]], which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.) | It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that [[Porcupine family|Porcupine]], which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.) | ||
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The interval 64/63, called <strong>septimal comma</strong> or <strong>Archytas' comma</strong> or (in German) <strong><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komma_%28Musik%29#Leipziger_Komma" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Leipziger Komma</a></strong>, is a <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/superparticular">superparticular ratio</a> which equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/9_8">9/8</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/8_7">8/7</a> if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7_4">7/4</a> with <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/16_9">16/9</a>, so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.<br /> | The interval 64/63, called <strong>septimal comma</strong> or <strong>Archytas' comma</strong> or (in German) <strong><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komma_%28Musik%29#Leipziger_Komma" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Leipziger Komma</a></strong>, is a <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/superparticular">superparticular ratio</a> which equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/9_8">9/8</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/8_7">8/7</a> if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7_4">7/4</a> with <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/16_9">16/9</a>, so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.<br /> | ||
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The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &gt;.<br /> | The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 &gt;. It is <br /> | ||
27.264092 cents in size.<br /> | |||
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It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family">Porcupine</a>, which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.)<br /> | It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family">Porcupine</a>, which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.)<br /> | ||
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<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">Other languages: [[xenharmonie/64_63|Deutsch]] </span> The interval 64/63, called **septimal comma** or **Archytas' comma** or (in German) **[[@http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komma_%28Musik%29#Leipziger_Komma|Leipziger Komma]]**, is a [[xenharmonic/superparticular|superparticular ratio]] which equates [[xenharmonic/9_8|9/8]] and [[xenharmonic/8_7|8/7]] if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates [[xenharmonic/7_4|7/4]] with [[xenharmonic/16_9|16/9]], so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59. The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 >. It is 27.264092 cents in size. It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that [[Porcupine family|Porcupine]], which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.) If you are using 9/7 major thirds, this also implies that the major third is split into two equal steps that represent both 9/8 and 8/7: If a stack of four fifths gets you to (octave-equivalent) 9/7, and a stack of two fifths gets you to 9/8, then the difference must be (9/7)/(9/8) = 8/7. The 8/7 and 9/8 intervals are equal, however, as a result of the generation process. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_comma]]
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<html><head><title>64_63</title></head><body><span style="display: block; text-align: right;">Other languages: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonie.wikispaces.com/64_63">Deutsch</a><br /> </span><br /> The interval 64/63, called <strong>septimal comma</strong> or <strong>Archytas' comma</strong> or (in German) <strong><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komma_%28Musik%29#Leipziger_Komma" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Leipziger Komma</a></strong>, is a <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/superparticular">superparticular ratio</a> which equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/9_8">9/8</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/8_7">8/7</a> if tempered out and has the eighth square number as a numerator. It also equates <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7_4">7/4</a> with <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/16_9">16/9</a>, so that the just dominant seventh chord, 1-5/4-3/2-16/9, and the otonal tetrad, 1-5/4-3/2-7/4, are equated to the same chord when 64/63 is tempered out. Equal divisions of the octave tempering out 64/63 include 12, 15, 22, 27, 37, 49 and 59.<br /> <br /> The Archytas comma is a 7-limit comma with monzo | 6 -2 0 -1 >. It is <br /> 27.264092 cents in size.<br /> <br /> It is similar to the Didymus or syntonic comma, 81/80, in that when it is tempered out it makes a stack of four fifths equal a major third (octave equivalent). In the case of 81/80, however, the major third is 5/4, while with the Archytas comma, the major third is 9/7. (Note that <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family">Porcupine</a>, which tempers out 64/63, uses a minor tone as a generator and generally is considered to have 5/4 major thirds, so it doesn't depend on this equivalency.)<br /> <br /> If you are using 9/7 major thirds, this also implies that the major third is split into two equal steps that represent both 9/8 and 8/7: If a stack of four fifths gets you to (octave-equivalent) 9/7, and a stack of two fifths gets you to 9/8, then the difference must be (9/7)/(9/8) = 8/7. The 8/7 and 9/8 intervals are equal, however, as a result of the generation process.<br /> <br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_comma" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_comma</a></body></html>