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'''19/17''' is a JI interval intermediate in size to [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], two common sizes of whole tone. In [[meantone]] systems, the two are conflated into one interval, for which 19/17 is often a good rational approximation, depending on the exact meantone tuning. It is a particularly good rational approximation to the whole tone of quarter comma meantone, as two of them fall short of a perfect [[5/4]] by [[1445/1444]], or 1.1985 cents. 19/17 is also very close to the size of the whole tone in golden meantone, being only about a tenth of a cent off.  
'''19/17''' is a JI interval intermediate in size to [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], two common sizes of whole tone. In [[meantone]] systems, the two are conflated into one interval, for which 19/17 is often a good rational approximation, depending on the exact meantone tuning. It is a particularly good rational approximation to the whole tone of quarter comma meantone, as two of them fall short of a perfect [[5/4]] by [[1445/1444]], or 1.1985 cents. 19/17 is also very close to the size of the whole tone in golden meantone, being only about a tenth of a cent off.  


19/17 is the [[mediant]] of 9/8 and 10/9: (9+10)/(8+9)=19/17.
19/17 is the [[mediant]] of 9/8 and 10/9: (9 + 10)/(8 + 9) = 19/17.


== See also ==
== See also ==
 
* [[15/14]] – its coordinated semi-meantone ((19/17)<sup>5</sup> × (15/14)<sup>2</sup> = (2/1) / ([[mercurial comma]]))
* [[15/14]] – its coordinated semi-meantone ((19/17)^5 * (15/14)^2 = (2/1) / ([[mercurial comma]]))
* [[34/19]] – its [[inverse interval]]
* [[34/19]] – its [[inverse interval]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


[[Category:19-limit]]
[[Category:19-limit]]
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Whole tone]]
[[Category:Whole tone]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Meantone]]
[[Category:Meantone]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Mercurial]]
[[Category:Mercurial]]
 
[[Category:Pages with internal sound examples]]
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Revision as of 17:30, 13 December 2021

Interval information
Ratio 19/17
Subgroup monzo 17.19 [-1 1
Size in cents 192.5576¢
Name quasi-meantone
Color name 19o17u2, nosu 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M2}^{19}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 8.33539
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 8.49586
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 36

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19/17 is a JI interval intermediate in size to 9/8 and 10/9, two common sizes of whole tone. In meantone systems, the two are conflated into one interval, for which 19/17 is often a good rational approximation, depending on the exact meantone tuning. It is a particularly good rational approximation to the whole tone of quarter comma meantone, as two of them fall short of a perfect 5/4 by 1445/1444, or 1.1985 cents. 19/17 is also very close to the size of the whole tone in golden meantone, being only about a tenth of a cent off.

19/17 is the mediant of 9/8 and 10/9: (9 + 10)/(8 + 9) = 19/17.

See also