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The '''syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum''' is a continuum of temperaments which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the [[256/243|limma (256/243)]].
The '''syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum''' is a continuum of temperaments which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the [[256/243|limma (256/243)]].


All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ 256/243. Varying ''n'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''n'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''n'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments supported by [[5edo]] (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them). The just value of ''n'' is 4.1952…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.  
All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ 256/243. Varying ''n'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''n'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''n'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments supported by [[5edo]] due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them. The just value of ''n'' is 4.1952…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.  


256/243 has the advantage of being the characteristic [[3-limit]] comma tempered out in [[5edo]]. For each case, we notice that ''n'' equals the order of harmonic 5 in the corresponding comma, and equals the number of generators to obtain a harmonic 3 in the MOS scale. However, if we let ''k'' = ''n'' + 1 (meaning ''n'' = ''k'' - 1) so that ''k'' = 0 means ''n'' = -1, ''k'' = 1 means ''n'' = 0, etc. then the continuum corresponds to (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> = 16/15, which might be a preferred way of conceptualising it because:
256/243 is the characteristic [[3-limit]] comma tempered out in [[5edo]]. In each case, we notice that ''n'' equals the order of harmonic 5 in the corresponding comma, and equals the number of generators to obtain a harmonic 3 in the MOS scale. However, if we let ''k'' = ''n'' + 1 (meaning ''n'' = ''k'' - 1) so that ''k'' = 0 means ''n'' = -1, ''k'' = 1 means ''n'' = 0, etc. then the continuum corresponds to (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> = 16/15, which might be a preferred way of conceptualising it because:
* 16/15 is the diatonic semitone, notable in the 5-limit as the difference between 4/3 and 5/4, so this shifted continuum could also logically be termed the "syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum". This means that at ''k'' = 0, 4/3 and 5/4 are mapped to the same interval while 81/80 becomes independent of 16/15 (meaning 81/80 may or may not be tempered) because the relation becomes (81/80)^0 = 1/1 = 16/15.
* 16/15 is the classic diatonic semitone, notable in the 5-limit as the difference between 4/3 and 5/4, so this shifted continuum could also logically be termed the "syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum". This means that at ''k'' = 0, 4/3 and 5/4 are mapped to the same interval while 81/80 becomes independent of 16/15 (meaning 81/80 may or may not be tempered) because the relation becomes (81/80)<sup>0</sup> ~ 1/1 ~ 16/15.
* ''k'' = 1 and upwards (up to a point) represent temperaments with (the potential for) reasonably good accuracy as equating at least one 81/80 with 16/15 seems like a good lower bound for a temperament intended to model JI. A good upper bound might be rodan (''k'' = 4), with the only exception being meantone (''n'' = ''k'' = (unsigned) infinity). (Temperaments corresponding to ''k'' = 0, -1, -2 are comparatively low-accuracy to the point of developing various intriguing structures and consequences.)
* ''k'' = 1 and upwards (up to a point) represent temperaments with (the potential for) reasonably good accuracy as equating at least one 81/80 with 16/15 seems like a good lower bound for a temperament intended to model JI. A good upper bound might be rodan (''k'' = 4), with the only exception being meantone (''n'' = ''k'' = (unsigned) infinity). (Temperaments corresponding to ''k'' = 0, -1, -2 are comparatively low-accuracy to the point of developing various intriguing structures and consequences.)
* 16/15 is the simplest ratio to be tempered in the continuum.  
* 16/15 is the simplest ratio to be tempered in the continuum.  

Revision as of 16:41, 9 December 2021

The syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum is a continuum of temperaments which equate a number of syntonic commas (81/80) with the limma (256/243).

All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)n ~ 256/243. Varying n results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to meantone as n approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite n, the continuum describes the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 5edo due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them. The just value of n is 4.1952…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.

256/243 is the characteristic 3-limit comma tempered out in 5edo. In each case, we notice that n equals the order of harmonic 5 in the corresponding comma, and equals the number of generators to obtain a harmonic 3 in the MOS scale. However, if we let k = n + 1 (meaning n = k - 1) so that k = 0 means n = -1, k = 1 means n = 0, etc. then the continuum corresponds to (81/80)k = 16/15, which might be a preferred way of conceptualising it because:

  • 16/15 is the classic diatonic semitone, notable in the 5-limit as the difference between 4/3 and 5/4, so this shifted continuum could also logically be termed the "syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum". This means that at k = 0, 4/3 and 5/4 are mapped to the same interval while 81/80 becomes independent of 16/15 (meaning 81/80 may or may not be tempered) because the relation becomes (81/80)0 ~ 1/1 ~ 16/15.
  • k = 1 and upwards (up to a point) represent temperaments with (the potential for) reasonably good accuracy as equating at least one 81/80 with 16/15 seems like a good lower bound for a temperament intended to model JI. A good upper bound might be rodan (k = 4), with the only exception being meantone (n = k = (unsigned) infinity). (Temperaments corresponding to k = 0, -1, -2 are comparatively low-accuracy to the point of developing various intriguing structures and consequences.)
  • 16/15 is the simplest ratio to be tempered in the continuum.
Temperaments in the continuum
k = n + 1 n = k − 1 Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
-3 -4 Laquadgu 177147/160000 [-8 11 -4
-2 -3 Laconic 2187/2000 [-4 7 -3
-1 -2 Bug 27/25 [0 3 -2
0 -1 Father 16/15 [4 -1 -1
1 0 Blackwood 256/243 [8 -5
2 1 Superpyth 20480/19683 [12 -9 1
3 2 Immunity 1638400/1594323 [16 -13 2
4 3 Rodan 131072000/129140163 [20 -17 3
5 4 Vulture 10485760000/10460353203 [24 -21 4
6 5 Pental [-28 25 -5
7 6 Hemiseven [-32 29 -6
Meantone 81/80 [-4 4 -1

Examples of temperaments with fractional values of n:

  • University (n = -1.5)
  • Uncle (n = -0.5)
  • 5 & 32 (n = 0.5)
  • 5 & 56 (n = 1.5)
  • Counterpental (n = 2.5)
  • Septiquarter (n = 3.5)
  • 2513 & 559 (n = 4.2)
  • 5 & 118 (n = 4.5)
  • 5 & 137 (n = 5.5)

Hemiseven (5-limit)

Comma: [32 -29 6

Mapping: [1 4 14], 0 -6 -29]]

POTE generator: ~320/243 = 483.2474 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.720465

The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 72

Sasayo (5 & 32)

Comma: [20 -14 1 = 5242880/4782969

Mapping: [1 2 8], 0 -1 -14]]

POTE generator: ~4/3 = 486.1713 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.795243

The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 32p

Trisatriyo (5 & 56)

Comma: [28 -22 3 = 33554432000/31381059609

Mapping: [1 1 -2], 0 3 22]]

POTE generator: ~2560/2187 = 235.8673 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 1.323443

The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 56

Counterpental

Comma: [36 -30 5

Mapping: [5 8 12], 0 -1 -6]]

POTE generator: 15.4278 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 1.500224

The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 75

Septiquarter (5-limit)

Comma: [44 -38 7

Mapping: [1 3 10], 0 -7 -38]]

POTE generator: ~204800/177147 = 242.4567 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.971284

The temperament finder - 5-limit 99 & 94

559 & 2513

Comma: [-124 109 -21

Mapping: [1 10 46], 0 -21 -109]]

POTE generator: ~3355443200000/2541865828329 = 480.8595 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.134523

The temperament finder - 5-limit 2513 & 559

Quinla-tritrigu (5 & 118)

Comma: [-52 46 -9

Mapping: [1 -2 -16], 0 9 46]]

POTE generator: ~320/243 = 477.9609 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.617683

Tribilalegu (5 & 137)

Comma: [-60 54 -11

Mapping: [1 6 24], 0 -11 -54]]

POTE generator: ~320/243 = 481.7421 cents

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 3.620981

The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 137