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Normally, 13 edo can be notated by adding an accidental between E and F. For some reading the same staff with the same letters but in different places can be mind boggling and lead to confusion. That's why some have recommended different options.

13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default "Basic" mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one.

13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default "Basic" mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one so William has chosen this to be the default mode rather than Dylathian.

This new approach simply modifies the way 13 edo is systematized and notated but is based on the exact same 8 tone scale that cryptic ruse uses.

[[image:13 edo alphabet.PNG]]

Notation written on the staff looks nearly the same as 12 edo notation except that because there are 8 letters instead of 7, the notes offset themselves to where space to space and line to line is now octaves rather than line to space. This actually makes learning the system much, much easier because a letter that is on a line is always on a line.

[[image:~~dylathian1~~.PNG]]

~~13 EDO Chromatic Scale in Octatonic Notation:~~

3 EDO Chromatic Scale in Octatonic Notation:

[[image:8 tone scale 13 edo.PNG]]

[[image:13 edo chromatic scale.PNG]]

Also, this approach allows for a circle of fourths to be produced:

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Normally, 13 edo can be notated by adding an accidental between E and F. For some reading the same staff with the same letters but in different places can be mind boggling and lead to confusion. That's why some have recommended different options.

13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default &quot;Basic&quot; mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one.

13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default &quot;Basic&quot; mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one so William has chosen this to be the default mode rather than Dylathian.

This new approach simply modifies the way 13 edo is systematized and notated but is based on the exact same 8 tone scale that cryptic ruse uses.

<img src="/file/view/13%20edo%20alphabet.PNG/506083616/13%20edo%20alphabet.PNG" alt="13 edo alphabet.PNG" title="13 edo alphabet.PNG" />

Notation written on the staff looks nearly the same as 12 edo notation except that because there are 8 letters instead of 7, the notes offset themselves to where space to space and line to line is now octaves rather than line to space. This actually makes learning the system much, much easier because a letter that is on a line is always on a line.

<img src="/file/view/~~dylathian1~~.PNG/~~506089202~~/~~dylathian1~~.PNG" alt="~~dylathian1~~.PNG" title="~~dylathian1~~.PNG" />~~ ~~

~~13 EDO Chromatic Scale in Octatonic Notation:~~

3 EDO Chromatic Scale in Octatonic Notation:

<img src="/file/view/8%20tone%20scale%2013%20edo.PNG/506382886/8%20tone%20scale%2013%20edo.PNG" alt="8 tone scale 13 edo.PNG" title="8 tone scale 13 edo.PNG" />

<img src="/file/view/13%20edo%20chromatic%20scale.PNG/506089524/13%20edo%20chromatic%20scale.PNG" alt="13 edo chromatic scale.PNG" title="13 edo chromatic scale.PNG" />

Also, this approach allows for a circle of fourths to be produced:

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+: This revision was by author [[User:cookiemeows|cookiemeows]] and made on <tt>2014-05-04 19:31:04 UTC</tt>.<br>
-: The original revision id was <tt>506381250</tt>.<br>
+: The original revision id was <tt>506415944</tt>.<br>
 : The revision comment was: <tt></tt><br>
 The revision contents are below, presented both in the original Wikispaces Wikitext format, and in HTML exactly as Wikispaces rendered it.<br>
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 &lt;span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5;"&gt;Normally, 13 edo can be notated by adding an accidental between E and F. For some reading the same staff with the same letters but in different places can be mind boggling and lead to confusion. That's why some have recommended different options. &lt;/span&gt;
-&lt;span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5;"&gt;13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default "Basic" mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A&lt;/span&gt; new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one.
+&lt;span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5;"&gt;13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default "Basic" mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A&lt;/span&gt; new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one so William has chosen this to be the default mode rather than Dylathian.
 This new approach simply modifies the way 13 edo is systematized and notated but is based on the exact same 8 tone scale that cryptic ruse uses.
 [[image:13 edo alphabet.PNG]]
 Notation written on the staff looks nearly the same as 12 edo notation except that because there are 8 letters instead of 7, the notes offset themselves to where space to space and line to line is now octaves rather than line to space. This actually makes learning the system much, much easier because a letter that is on a line is always on a line.
-[[image:dylathian1.PNG]]
 EDO Chromatic Scale in Octatonic Notation:
+[[image:8 tone scale 13 edo.PNG]]
 [[image:13 edo chromatic scale.PNG]]
 Also, this approach allows for a circle of fourths to be produced:
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   &lt;span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5;"&gt;Normally, 13 edo can be notated by adding an accidental between E and F. For some reading the same staff with the same letters but in different places can be mind boggling and lead to confusion. That's why some have recommended different options. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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-&lt;span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5;"&gt;13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default &amp;quot;Basic&amp;quot; mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A&lt;/span&gt; new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one.&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5;"&gt;13 edo may be better suited to be notated by using the 8 notes of the MOS father[8] as the notes except that similarly to meantone, the 4th mode of Father[8] is the default &amp;quot;Basic&amp;quot; mode of 13 edo and is notated with new letters. A&lt;/span&gt; new set of letters may benefit by giving 13 edo a fresh perspective. William Lynch proposes using the letters JKLMNOPQ as the notes of the 4th mode of Father[8] with J being an 11/8 from a normal C, in order to give it a more personal identify rather than hearing it as C. The remaining letters of 13 edo are notated with sharps and flats like 12 edo. The whole alphabet is written J-J#-K-K#-L-M-M#-N-N#-O-P-P#-Q-J . There are no accidentals between LM, OP, and QJ. The idea behind using the 4th mode rather than the 1st is that this mode contains a warmer sounding shape because it has a flat sixth in instead of a natural one so William has chosen this to be the default mode rather than Dylathian.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 This new approach simply modifies the way 13 edo is systematized and notated but is based on the exact same 8 tone scale that cryptic ruse uses.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Notation written on the staff looks nearly the same as 12 edo notation except that because there are 8 letters instead of 7, the notes offset themselves to where space to space and line to line is now octaves rather than line to space. This actually makes learning the system much, much easier because a letter that is on a line is always on a line.&lt;br /&gt;
-&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule:858:&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;/file/view/dylathian1.PNG/506089202/dylathian1.PNG&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;img src="/file/view/dylathian1.PNG/506089202/dylathian1.PNG" alt="dylathian1.PNG" title="dylathian1.PNG" /&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextLocalImageRule:858 --&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 EDO Chromatic Scale in Octatonic Notation:&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule:858:&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;/file/view/8%20tone%20scale%2013%20edo.PNG/506382886/8%20tone%20scale%2013%20edo.PNG&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;img src="/file/view/8%20tone%20scale%2013%20edo.PNG/506382886/8%20tone%20scale%2013%20edo.PNG" alt="8 tone scale 13 edo.PNG" title="8 tone scale 13 edo.PNG" /&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextLocalImageRule:858 --&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 Also, this approach allows for a circle of fourths to be produced:&lt;br /&gt;