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== History == | == History == | ||
Meantone was the dominant tuning used in Europe from around late 15th century to around early 18th century, after which various [[Well Temperament | Meantone was the dominant tuning used in Europe from around late 15th century to around early 18th century, after which various [[Well Temperament]]s and eventually [[12edo|12-tone equal temperament]] won in popularity. | ||
== Theory and | == Theory and classification == | ||
Meantone temperaments are based on two generating intervals; the octave and the fifth, from which all pitches are composed. This qualifies it as a [[Regular Temperaments|rank-2 temperament]]. The octave is typically pure or close to pure, and the fifth is a few cents narrower than pure. The rationale for narrowing the fifth is to temper out the syntonic comma. This means that stacking four fifths (such as C-G-D-A-E) results in a major third (C-E) that is close to just. | Meantone temperaments are based on two generating intervals; the octave and the fifth, from which all pitches are composed. This qualifies it as a [[Regular Temperaments|rank-2 temperament]]. The octave is typically pure or close to pure, and the fifth is a few cents narrower than pure. The rationale for narrowing the fifth is to temper out the syntonic comma. This means that stacking four fifths (such as C-G-D-A-E) results in a major third (C-E) that is close to just. | ||
[[Meantone intervals|Intervals in meantone]] have standard names based on the number of steps of the diatonic scale they span (this corresponds to the [[val]] | [[Meantone intervals|Intervals in meantone]] have standard names based on the number of steps of the diatonic scale they span (this corresponds to the [[val]] {{val| 7 11 16 }}), with a modifier {…"double diminished", "diminished", "minor", "major", "augmented", "double augmented"…} that tells you the specific interval in increments of a chromatic semitone. Note that in a general meantone system, all of these intervals are distinct. For example, a diminished fourth is a different interval from a major third. | ||
== Meantone temperaments == | == Meantone temperaments == | ||
The meantone temperaments (''recte'' tunings) include: | The common meantone temperaments (''recte'' tunings) include: | ||
* [[1/ | * [[1/2 syntonic comma meantone]] | ||
* [[33edo]] | * [[33edo]] | ||
* [[26edo]] | * [[26edo]] | ||
* [[2/ | * [[2/5 syntonic comma meantone]] | ||
* [[45edo]] | * [[45edo]] | ||
* [[1/3 syntonic comma meantone]] | * [[1/3 syntonic comma meantone]] | ||
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* [[Tungsten meantone]] | * [[Tungsten meantone]] | ||
== Spectrum of | == Spectrum of meantone tunings by eigenmonzos == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! [[Eigenmonzo]] | ! [[Eigenmonzo]] | ||
! Fifth size | ! Fifth size | ||
! | ! Comments | ||
|- | |- | ||
|567/512 | | 567/512 | ||
|688.323 | | 688.323 | ||
|1/2 septimal comma | | 1/2 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|16/13 | | 16/13 | ||
|689.868 | | 689.868 | ||
|Meanplop | | Meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{monzo| 16 -10 }} | ||
|690.225 | | 690.225 | ||
|1/2 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean dilimma | | 1/2 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean dilimma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|76/51 | | 76/51 | ||
|690.603 | | 690.603 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{monzo| -19 9 0 2 }} | ||
|691.049 | | 691.049 | ||
|2/5 septimal comma | | 2/5 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[10/9]] | | [[10/9]] | ||
| Line 65: | Line 65: | ||
| 1/2 comma | | 1/2 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/12 | | 13/12 | ||
|692.285 | | 692.285 | ||
|Meanplop | | Meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[26edo|15\26]] | | [[26edo|(15\26)]] | ||
| 692.308 | | 692.308 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{monzo| 31 -19 }} | ||
|692.571 | | 692.571 | ||
|2/5 Pythagorean comma | | 2/5 Pythagorean comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|2048/1701 | | 2048/1701 | ||
|692.867 | | 692.867 | ||
|1/3 septimal comma | | 1/3 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|33/26 | | 33/26 | ||
|693.178 | | 693.178 | ||
|Grosstone | | Grosstone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/10 | | 13/10 | ||
|693.223 | | 693.223 | ||
|Meanplop | | Meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[45edo|26\45]] | | [[45edo|(26\45)]] | ||
| 693.333 | | 693.333 | ||
| | | | ||
| Line 97: | Line 97: | ||
| 2/5 comma | | 2/5 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|18/13 | | 18/13 | ||
|693.897 | | 693.897 | ||
|Meanplop | | Meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|19683/16384 | | 19683/16384 | ||
|694.135 | | 694.135 | ||
|1/3 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean augmented second | | 1/3 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean augmented second | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{monzo| -23 11 0 2 }} | ||
|694.165 | | 694.165 | ||
|2/7 septimal comma | | 2/7 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
|694.193 | | 694.193 | ||
|Meanplop | | Meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[14/13]] | | [[14/13]] | ||
|694. | | 694.340 | ||
|Tridecimal | | Tridecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[56/45]] | | [[56/45]] | ||
| 694.651 | | 694.651 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[28/27]] | | [[28/27]] | ||
| 694.709 | | 694.709 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 81/70 | | 81/70 | ||
| 694.732 | | 694.732 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[19edo|11\19]] | | [[19edo|(11\19)]] | ||
| 694.737 | | 694.737 | ||
| | | | ||
| Line 137: | Line 137: | ||
| 1/3 comma | | 1/3 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|14/13 | | 14/13 | ||
|694.878 | | 694.878 | ||
|Meanplop | | Meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[18/13]] | | [[18/13]] | ||
|695.124 | | 695.124 | ||
|Tridecimal | | Tridecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5103/4095 | | 5103/4095 | ||
|695.139 | | 695.139 | ||
|1/4 septimal comma | | 1/4 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[15/13]] | | [[15/13]] | ||
|695.226 | | 695.226 | ||
|Tridecimal Meantone | | Tridecimal Meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{monzo| 27 -17 }} | ||
|695.252 | | 695.252 | ||
|2/7 Pythagorean comma, [[17-comma]] | | 2/7 Pythagorean comma, [[17-comma]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[35/27]] | | [[35/27]] | ||
| 695.389 | | 695.389 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[88edo|51\88]] | | [[88edo|(51\88)]] | ||
| 695.455 | | 695.455 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1\2 + 1\(4π) | | 1\2 + 1\(4π) | ||
| Line 169: | Line 169: | ||
| Lucy Tuning | | Lucy Tuning | ||
|- | |- | ||
|39/28 | | 39/28 | ||
|695.6095 | | 695.6095 | ||
|Tridecimal | | Tridecimal meantone, tridecimal meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[13/12]] | | [[13/12]] | ||
|695.612 | | 695.612 | ||
|Tridecimal | | Tridecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[9/7]] | | [[9/7]] | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| f | | ''f''<sup>4</sup> = 2''f'' + 2 | ||
| 695. | | 695.630 | ||
| Wilson fifth | | Wilson fifth | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[69edo|40\69]] | | [[69edo|(40\69)]] | ||
| 695.652 | | 695.652 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[25/24]] | | [[25/24]] | ||
| 695. | | 695.810 | ||
| 2/7 comma | | 2/7 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|40/33 | | 40/33 | ||
|695.815 | | 695.815 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[13/10]] | | [[13/10]] | ||
| 695.838 | | 695.838 | ||
| | | Ratwolf fifth, tridecimal meantone and meanpop eigenmonzo | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[81/80]] | | [[81/80]] | ||
|695.869 | | 695.869 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|112/99 | | 112/99 | ||
|695.886 | | 695.886 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[36/35]] | | [[36/35]] | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[50edo|29\50]] | | [[50edo|(29\50)]] | ||
| 696 | | 696.000 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|16/13 | | 16/13 | ||
|696.035 | | 696.035 | ||
|Tridecimal | | Tridecimal meantone, tridecimal meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/11 | | 13/11 | ||
|696.043 | | 696.043 | ||
|13 | | 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax (tridecimal meanpop) | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11/8 | | 11/8 | ||
|696.052 | | 696.052 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8192/6561 | | 8192/6561 | ||
|696.09 | | 696.09 | ||
|1/4 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean diminished fourth | | 1/4 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean diminished fourth | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/14]] | | [[15/14]] | ||
| Line 243: | Line 243: | ||
| 78125/73728 | | 78125/73728 | ||
| 696.165 | | 696.165 | ||
| [[5-limit]] least squares | | [[5-odd-limit]] least squares | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11/10 | | 11/10 | ||
|696.176 | | 696.176 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| (8 - φ)\11 | | (8 - φ)\11 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|19/17 | | 19/17 | ||
|696.279 | | 696.279 | ||
|Classical meantone | | Classical meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[81edo|47\81]] | | [[81edo|(47\81)]] | ||
| 696.296 | | 696.296 | ||
| | | | ||
| Line 269: | Line 269: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|27/22 | | 27/22 | ||
|696.3635 | | 696.3635 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[48/35]] | | [[48/35]] | ||
| Line 277: | Line 277: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|39/32 | | 39/32 | ||
|696.405 | | 696.405 | ||
|Tridecimal | | Tridecimal meantone, tridecimal meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|14/11 | | 14/11 | ||
|696.413 | | 696.413 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Monzo| 19 9 -1 -11 }} | | {{Monzo| 19 9 -1 -11 }} | ||
| 696.436 | | 696.436 | ||
| 9-limit least squares | | 9-odd-limit least squares | ||
|- | |- | ||
|12/11 | | 12/11 | ||
|696.474 | | 696.474 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|16384/15309 | | 16384/15309 | ||
|696.502 | | 696.502 | ||
|1/5 septimal comma | | 1/5 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[5/4]] | | [[5/4]] | ||
| 696.578 | | 696.578 | ||
| 5-, 7-, 9- and 11- ( | | 5-, 7-, 9- and 11-odd-limit (meanpop) minimax, 1/4 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 49/48 | | 49/48 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{ | | {{monzo| -55 -11 1 25 }} | ||
| 696.648 | | 696.648 | ||
| [[7-limit]] least squares | | [[7-odd-limit]] least squares | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[11/9]] | | [[11/9]] | ||
|696.713 | | 696.713 | ||
|11-, 13- and 15- limit ( | | 11-, 13- and 15-odd-limit (tridecimal meantone) minimax | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[31edo|18\31]] | | [[31edo|(18\31)]] | ||
| 696.774 | | 696.774 | ||
| | | | ||
| Line 325: | Line 325: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11/9 | | 11/9 | ||
|696.839 | | 696.839 | ||
|Meanpop | | Meanpop | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[8/7]] | | [[8/7]] | ||
| Line 337: | Line 337: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[12/11]] | | [[12/11]] | ||
|697.021 | | 697.021 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[7/5]] | | [[7/5]] | ||
| Line 345: | Line 345: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[15/11]] | | [[15/11]] | ||
|697.158 | | 697.158 | ||
| rowspan="2" |Undecimal | | rowspan="2" | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[27/22]] | | [[27/22]] | ||
|697.159 | | 697.159 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|39/32 | | 39/32 | ||
|697.168 | | 697.168 | ||
|Grosstone | | Grosstone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[75/64]] | | [[75/64]] | ||
| Line 360: | Line 360: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|22/21 | | 22/21 | ||
|697. | | 697.220 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|14/13 | | 14/13 | ||
|697.242 | | 697.242 | ||
|13 | | 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax (grosstone) | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[2187/2048]] | | [[2187/2048]] | ||
|697.263 | | 697.263 | ||
|1/5 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean apotome | | 1/5 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean apotome | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/10 | | 13/10 | ||
|697.289 | | 697.289 | ||
|Grosstone | | Grosstone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[11/8]] | | [[11/8]] | ||
|697.295 | | 697.295 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[74edo|43\74]] | | [[74edo|(43\74)]] | ||
| 697.297 | | 697.297 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[5/4 7] | | [5/4 7] | ||
|697.339 | | 697.339 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 392: | Line 392: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[13/11]] | | [[13/11]] | ||
|697.376 | | 697.376 | ||
|Meridetone | | Meridetone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|45927/32768 | | 45927/32768 | ||
|697.411 | | 697.411 | ||
|1/6 septimal comma | | 1/6 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|18/13 | | 18/13 | ||
|697.465 | | 697.465 | ||
|13, 15 limit minimax ( | | 13-, 15-odd-limit minimax (meridetone) | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[16/13]] | | [[16/13]] | ||
|696.467 | | 696.467 | ||
|Grosstone | | Grosstone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[11/10]] | | [[11/10]] | ||
|697. | | 697.500 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
|697.511 | | 697.511 | ||
|Grosstone | | Grosstone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/12 | | 13/12 | ||
|697.637 | | 697.637 | ||
|Meridetone | | Meridetone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[16/15]] | | [[16/15]] | ||
| Line 424: | Line 424: | ||
| 1/5 comma | | 1/5 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[43edo|25\43]] | | [[43edo|(25\43)]] | ||
| 697.674 | | 697.674 | ||
| | | | ||
| Line 436: | Line 436: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|40/33, 16/13 | | 40/33, 16/13 | ||
|697.797 | | 697.797 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone, meridetone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[14/11]] | | [[14/11]] | ||
|697.812 | | 697.812 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
|697. | | 697.830 | ||
|Meridetone | | Meridetone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[18/13]] | | [[18/13]] | ||
|697.966 | | 697.966 | ||
|Grosstone | | Grosstone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/10 | | 13/10 | ||
|698.009 | | 698.009 | ||
|Meridetone | | Meridetone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[1024/729]] | | [[1024/729]] | ||
|698.045 | | 698.045 | ||
|1/6 Pythagorean comma, lesser Pythagorean tritone | | 1/6 Pythagorean comma, lesser Pythagorean tritone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{monzo| - 17 9 0 1 }} | ||
|698. | | 698.060 | ||
|1/7 septimal comma | | 1/7 septimal comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[28/25]] | | [[28/25]] | ||
| Line 468: | Line 468: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[55edo|32\55]] | | [[55edo|(32\55)]] | ||
| 698.182 | | 698.182 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|33/28 | | 33/28 | ||
|698.272 | | 698.272 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[80/63]] | | [[80/63]] | ||
| Line 480: | Line 480: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|17/15 | | 17/15 | ||
|698.331 | | 698.331 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Line 488: | Line 488: | ||
| 1/6 comma | | 1/6 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|33/26 | | 33/26 | ||
|698.407 | | 698.407 | ||
|Meanplop, | | Meanplop, meridetone | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[67edo|39\67]] | | [[67edo|(39\67)]] | ||
| 698.507 | | 698.507 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[256/243]] | | [[256/243]] | ||
|698.604 | | 698.604 | ||
|1/7 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean limma | | 1/7 Pythagorean comma, Pythagorean limma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|112/99 | | 112/99 | ||
|698. | | 698.640 | ||
|Undecimal | | Undecimal meantone | ||
|- | |- | ||
|45/34 | | 45/34 | ||
|698.661 | | 698.661 | ||
| | | {{clarify}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[79edo|46\79]] | | [[79edo|(46\79)]] | ||
| 698.734 | | 698.734 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|13/11 | | 13/11 | ||
|698.801 | | 698.801 | ||
|Meridetone, | | Meridetone, meanplop | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[135/128]] | | [[135/128]] | ||
|698.883 | | 698.883 | ||
|1/7 comma | | 1/7 comma | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[17/16]] | | [[17/16]] | ||
|699.009 | | 699.009 | ||
| | | {{clarify}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[25/21]] | | [[25/21]] | ||
| Line 528: | Line 528: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[12edo|7\12]] | | [[12edo|(7\12)]] | ||
| 700 | | 700.000 | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[18/17 | | ''[[18/17]]'' | ||
|''700.209'' | | ''700.209'' | ||
| | | {{clarify}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''[[19/16]]'' | | ''[[19/16]]'' | ||
|''700.829'' | | ''700.829'' | ||
| | | {{clarify}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[81/80 | | ''[[81/80]]'' | ||
|''701.792'' | | ''701.792'' | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[53edo|''31\53'']] | | [[53edo|(''31\53'')]] | ||
| ''701.887'' | | ''701.887'' | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[3/2 | | ''[[3/2]]'' | ||
| ''701.955'' | | ''701.955'' | ||
| [[Pythagorean tuning | | ''[[Pythagorean tuning]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[64/63 | | ''[[64/63]]'' | ||
|''702.272'' | | ''702.272'' | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''256/189'' | | ''256/189'' | ||
|''702.301'' | | ''702.301'' | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''33/26'' | | ''33/26'' | ||
|''703.186'' | | ''703.186'' | ||
|''Tridecimal | | ''Tridecimal meantone'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''22/21'' | | ''22/21'' | ||
|''703.356'' | | ''703.356'' | ||
|''Meanpop'' | | ''Meanpop'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''13/11'' | | ''13/11'' | ||
|''703.597'' | | ''703.597'' | ||
|''Tridecimal | | ''Tridecimal meantone'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ''88/81'' | |||
|''707.946'' | | ''707.946'' | ||
|''Meanpop'' | | ''Meanpop'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''710.4335'' | | ''88/81'' | ||
|''Undecimal | | ''710.4335'' | ||
| ''Undecimal meantone'' | |||
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== Links == | == Links == | ||
* http://www.kylegann.com/histune.html | * [http://www.kylegann.com/histune.html An Introduction to Historical Tunings], by [[Kyle Gann]] | ||
[[Category:Meantone| ]] <!-- main article --> | [[Category:Meantone| ]] <!-- main article --> | ||
[[Category:Temperament]] | [[Category:Temperament]] | ||
[[Category:Theory]] | [[Category:Theory]] | ||
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