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Compared to 12edo, the intervals of 11edo are stretched: | Compared to 12edo, the intervals of 11edo are stretched: | ||
<ul><li>The "minor second," at 109.09 cents, functions melodically and harmonically very much like the 100-cent minor second of 12edo.</li><li>The "major second," at 218.18 cents, works in a similar fashion to the 200-cent major second of 12edo, but as a major ninth, it may sound less harmonious. Its inversion, at 981.82 cents, can function as a "bluesy" seventh relative to 12edo's 1000-cent interval, although it is still about 13 cents away from 7/4.</li><li>The "minor third," at 327.27 cents, is rather sharp and encroaching upon "neutral third."</li><li>The "major third," at 436.36 cents, is quite sharp, and closer to the supermajor third of frequency ratio 9/7 than the simpler third of 5/4.</li><li>The "perfect fourth," at 545. | <ul><li>The "minor second," at 109.09 cents, functions melodically and harmonically very much like the 100-cent minor second of 12edo.</li><li>The "major second," at 218.18 cents, works in a similar fashion to the 200-cent major second of 12edo, but as a major ninth, it may sound less harmonious. Its inversion, at 981.82 cents, can function as a "bluesy" seventh relative to 12edo's 1000-cent interval, although it is still about 13 cents away from 7/4.</li><li>The "minor third," at 327.27 cents, is rather sharp and encroaching upon "neutral third."</li><li>The "major third," at 436.36 cents, is quite sharp, and closer to the supermajor third of frequency ratio 9/7 than the simpler third of 5/4.</li><li>The "perfect fourth," at 545.45 cents, does not sound like a perfect fourth at all, and passes more easily as the 11/8 superfourth than the simpler perfect fourth of 4/3.</li></ul> | ||
=Subgroup= | =Subgroup= | ||
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{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! | Degree | ||
! | ! | Size in | ||
! | |||
! | [[cent|Cents]] | ||
! | ! | Solfege | ||
! | Approximate Ratios* | |||
! | Sagittal | |||
notation | notation | ||
(22edo subset) | (22edo subset) | ||
! colspan | ! colspan="2" | [[Ups_and_Downs_Notation|Up/down notation]] | ||
with major wider | with major wider | ||
than minor | than minor | ||
! colspan | ! colspan="2" | Up/down notation | ||
with major narrower | with major narrower | ||
than minor | than minor | ||
! | ! | [[Tútim_Dennsuul_Wafiil|TDW]] | ||
Machine | Machine | ||
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notation | notation | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 0 | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.00 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''do''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''do''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 1/1 | | style="text-align:center;" | 1/1 | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 1 | | style="text-align:center;" | 1 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 109.09 | | style="text-align:right;" | 109.09 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''ra''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''ra''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[15/14|15/14]], [[16/15|16/15]], [[17/16|17/16]], [[18/17|18/17]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[15/14|15/14]], [[16/15|16/15]], [[17/16|17/16]], [[18/17|18/17]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 2 | | style="text-align:center;" | 2 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 218.18 | | style="text-align:right;" | 218.18 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''re''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''re''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[8/7|8/7]], [[9/8|9/8]], [[17/15|17/15]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[8/7|8/7]], [[9/8|9/8]], [[17/15|17/15]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | B^, Cb | | style="text-align:center;" | B^, Cb | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | ~2, M3 | | style="text-align:center;" | ~2, M3 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | B^, C | | style="text-align:center;" | B^, C# | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | R | | style="text-align:center;" | R | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 3 | | style="text-align:center;" | 3 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 327.27 | | style="text-align:right;" | 327.27 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''me''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''me''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[6/5|6/5]], [[11/9|11/9]], [[17/14|17/14]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[6/5|6/5]], [[11/9|11/9]], [[17/14|17/14]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | B#, Cv | | style="text-align:center;" | B#, Cv | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | m2, ~3 | | style="text-align:center;" | m2, ~3 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | style="text-align:center;" | Bb, Cv | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | R#\Sb | | style="text-align:center;" | R#\Sb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 4 | | style="text-align:center;" | 4 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 436.36 | | style="text-align:right;" | 436.36 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''mo''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''mo''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[9/7|9/7]], [[14/11|14/11]], [[22/17|22/17]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[9/7|9/7]], [[14/11|14/11]], [[22/17|22/17]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 5 | | style="text-align:center;" | 5 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 545. | | style="text-align:right;" | 545.45 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''fu''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''fu''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[11/8|11/8]], [[15/11|15/11]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[11/8|11/8]], [[15/11|15/11]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 6 | | style="text-align:center;" | 6 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 654. | | style="text-align:right;" | 654.55 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''su''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''su''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[16/11|16/11]], [[22/15|22/15]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[16/11|16/11]], [[22/15|22/15]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 7 | | style="text-align:center;" | 7 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 763.64 | | style="text-align:right;" | 763.64 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''lo''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''lo''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[11/7|11/7]], [[14/9|14/9]], [[17/11|17/11]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[11/7|11/7]], [[14/9|14/9]], [[17/11|17/11]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | E^, Fb | | style="text-align:center;" | E^, Fb | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | ^5, M6 | | style="text-align:center;" | ^5, M6 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | E^, F | | style="text-align:center;" | E^, F# | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | T#\Ub | | style="text-align:center;" | T#\Ub | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 8 | | style="text-align:center;" | 8 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 872.73 | | style="text-align:right;" | 872.73 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''la''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''la''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[5/3|5/3]], [[18/11|18/11]], [[28/17|28/17]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[5/3|5/3]], [[18/11|18/11]], [[28/17|28/17]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | Fv, Gb | | style="text-align:center;" | Fv, Gb | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | ~6, M7 | | style="text-align:center;" | ~6, M7 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Fv, G | | style="text-align:center;" | Fv, G# | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | U | | style="text-align:center;" | U | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 9 | | style="text-align:center;" | 9 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 981.82 | | style="text-align:right;" | 981.82 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''ta''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''ta''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[7/4|7/4]], [[16/9|16/9]], [[30/17|30/17]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[7/4|7/4]], [[16/9|16/9]], [[30/17|30/17]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 10 | | style="text-align:center;" | 10 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 1090.91 | | style="text-align:right;" | 1090.91 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''ti''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''ti''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | [[15/8|15/8]], [[17/9|17/9]], [[28/15|28/15]], [[32/17|32/17]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[15/8|15/8]], [[17/9|17/9]], [[28/15|28/15]], [[32/17|32/17]] | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 11 | | style="text-align:center;" | 11 | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 1200.00 | | style="text-align:right;" | 1200.00 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | '''do''' | | style="text-align:center;" | '''do''' | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2/1 | | style="text-align:center;" | 2/1 | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | [[135/128|135/128]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[135/128|135/128]] | ||
| | | | | | -7 3 1 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 92.18 | | style="text-align:right;" | 92.18 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Major Chroma | | style="text-align:center;" | Major Chroma | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 9931568/9752117 | | style="text-align:center;" | 9931568/9752117 | ||
| | | | | | -25 7 6 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 31.57 | | style="text-align:right;" | 31.57 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Ampersand's Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Ampersand's Comma | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 1776337/1773750 | | style="text-align:center;" | 1776337/1773750 | ||
| | | | | | -68 18 17 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 2.52 | | style="text-align:right;" | 2.52 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Vavoom | | style="text-align:center;" | Vavoom | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 9859966/9733137 | | style="text-align:center;" | 9859966/9733137 | ||
| | | | | | -10 7 8 -7 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 22.41 | | style="text-align:right;" | 22.41 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Blackjackisma | | style="text-align:center;" | Blackjackisma | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 1029/1024 | | style="text-align:center;" | 1029/1024 | ||
| | | | | | -10 1 0 3 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.43 | | style="text-align:right;" | 8.43 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Gamelisma | | style="text-align:center;" | Gamelisma | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | [[225/224|225/224]] | | style="text-align:center;" | [[225/224|225/224]] | ||
| | | | | | -5 2 2 -1 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 7.71 | | style="text-align:right;" | 7.71 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Kleisma | | style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Kleisma | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 16875/16807 | | style="text-align:center;" | 16875/16807 | ||
| | | | | | 0 3 4 -5 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 6.99 | | style="text-align:right;" | 6.99 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Mirkwai | | style="text-align:center;" | Mirkwai | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 2401/2400 | | style="text-align:center;" | 2401/2400 | ||
| | | | | | -5 -1 -2 4 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.72 | | style="text-align:right;" | 0.72 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Breedsma | | style="text-align:center;" | Breedsma | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 121/120 | | style="text-align:center;" | 121/120 | ||
| | | | | | -3 -1 -1 0 2 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 14.37 | | style="text-align:right;" | 14.37 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Biyatisma | | style="text-align:center;" | Biyatisma | ||
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| style="text-align:center;" | 65536/65219 | | style="text-align:center;" | 65536/65219 | ||
| | | | | | 16 0 0 -2 -3 > | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.39 | | style="text-align:right;" | 8.39 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Orgonisma | | style="text-align:center;" | Orgonisma | ||
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''[http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/black_ritual_dirge.mp3 Black Ritual Dirge]'' by [[Aaron_Krister_Johnson|Aaron Krister Johnson]] | ''[http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/black_ritual_dirge.mp3 Black Ritual Dirge]'' by [[Aaron_Krister_Johnson|Aaron Krister Johnson]] | ||
''<span style="">[http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=2701 Eleven Birds] (video and music) (</span>' | ''<span style="">[http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=2701 Eleven Birds] (video and music) (</span>''''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/11-ET/20120928-piano-11edo-eleven-birds.mp3 audio only]'' '') by [[Chris_Vaisvil|Chris Vaisvil]]'' | ||
''<span style="">[http://soundcloud.com/vaisvil/the-execution-of-12-equal The Execution of 12 Equal] by [[Chris_Vaisvil|Chris Vaisvil]]</span>'' | ''<span style="">[http://soundcloud.com/vaisvil/the-execution-of-12-equal The Execution of 12 Equal] by [[Chris_Vaisvil|Chris Vaisvil]]</span>'' | ||