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* Take the transpose of the pseudoinverse of V, call that U | * Take the transpose of the pseudoinverse of V, call that U | ||
* Find a basis for the commas of V | * Find a basis for the commas of V | ||
* For each row of U, clear denominators and append the monzos of the comma basis for V | * For each row U[i] of U, clear denominators and append the monzos of the comma basis for V | ||
* Saturate the result to a list of monzos, call that S | * Saturate the result to a list of monzos, call that S | ||
* Apply | * Apply the ith val V[i] (dot product) to each element of S | ||
* Insert V.S[ | * Insert V[i].S[j] in front of the elements of S[j] as the first element, obtaining a modified list T | ||
* Hermite reduce the modified list T, take the first row, and remove the first element (which should be a 1.) | * Hermite reduce the modified list T, take the first row, and remove the first element (which should be a 1.) | ||
* Consider the rest to be a monzo, which may be converted to a rational number if you prefer | * Consider the rest to be a monzo, which may be converted to a rational number if you prefer | ||
* This is the corresponding transveral generator to the ith val of V; it may be reduced to an equivalent generator of minimal Tenney height by multiplying by the commas of V | * This is the corresponding transveral generator to the ith val V[i] of V; it may be reduced to an equivalent generator of minimal Tenney height by multiplying by the commas of V | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Transversal generators</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:6:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:6 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:7: --><a href="#Definition">Definition</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:7 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:8: --> | <a href="#Examples">Examples</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:8 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:9: --> | <a href="#Finding the transversal generators">Finding the transversal generators</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:9 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:10: --> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Transversal generators</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:6:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:6 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:7: --><a href="#Definition">Definition</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:7 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:8: --> | <a href="#Examples">Examples</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:8 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:9: --> | <a href="#Finding the transversal generators">Finding the transversal generators</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:9 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:10: --> | ||
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We can find transveral generators for V by the following procedure:<br /> | We can find transveral generators for V by the following procedure:<br /> | ||
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<ul><li>Take the transpose of the pseudoinverse of V, call that U</li><li>Find a basis for the commas of V</li><li>For each row of U, clear denominators and append the monzos of the comma basis for V</li><li>Saturate the result to a list of monzos, call that S</li><li>Apply | <ul><li>Take the transpose of the pseudoinverse of V, call that U</li><li>Find a basis for the commas of V</li><li>For each row U[i] of U, clear denominators and append the monzos of the comma basis for V</li><li>Saturate the result to a list of monzos, call that S</li><li>Apply the ith val V[i] (dot product) to each element of S</li><li>Insert V[i].S[j] in front of the elements of S[j] as the first element, obtaining a modified list T</li><li>Hermite reduce the modified list T, take the first row, and remove the first element (which should be a 1.)</li><li>Consider the rest to be a monzo, which may be converted to a rational number if you prefer</li><li>This is the corresponding transveral generator to the ith val V[i] of V; it may be reduced to an equivalent generator of minimal Tenney height by multiplying by the commas of V</li></ul></body></html></pre></div> | ||
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[[toc|flat]] =Definition= Given a reduced list of [[Harmonic limit|p-limit]] vals V, we may define a set of //transversal generators// for V as a set of p-limit intervals q such that one of the vals of V maps q to 1 and the rest map it to 0. By //reduced// is meant that the gcd of the elements of each of the vals is 1--or in other words, none of the vals are contorted--and that they are linearly independent, so that if there are r vals, the rank of V as a matrix is r. If v1, v2, ... vr are the vals of V and t1, t2, ... tr are the corresponding transversal generators, then for any p-limit q we have q = t1^v1(q) * t2^v2(q) * ... * tr^vr(q) In this way the transversal generators provide a [[transversal]] of the p-limit, and hence the name. =Examples= Suppose V consists of the 7-limit patent vals for 12 and 19; that is, V = [<12 19 28 34|, <19 30 44 53|]. Then a corresponding list of transversal generators is [49/48, 36/35]. 49/48 corresponds to one step of 12et, and zero steps of 19et, whereas 36/35 is zero steps of 12et, and one step of 19et. This gives us a septimal meantone transversal of the 7-limit where 3/2 is represented by (49/48)^7 * (36/35)^11, and 2 is represented by (49/48)^12 * (36/35)^19. A more familiar septimal meantone transversal starts from the normal val list, [<1 0 -4 -13|, <0 1 4 10|], which corresponds to the transversal generators [2, 3]. Given a list of transversal generators, we may append a comma basis for V and obtain a basis for the entire p-limit. For instance, we may extend [49/48, 36/35] to [49/48, 36/35, 81/80, 126/125]. Taking the corresponding matrix of monzos, whose rows are monzos for this list, inverting it and then transposing, we obtain [<12 19 28 34|, <19 30 44 53|, <-4 -6 -9 -11|, <-5 -8 -12 -14|] This is a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimodular_matrix|unimodular matrix]] defining a change of basis for the p-limit. For another example, consider [<1 1 1 2|, <0 2 1 1|, <0 0 2 1|] which is the [[Normal lists|normal val list]] for breed temperament, the temperament tempering out 2401/2400. A corresponding list of transversal generators is [2, 49/40, 10/7]. =Finding the transversal generators= We can find transveral generators for V by the following procedure: * Take the transpose of the pseudoinverse of V, call that U * Find a basis for the commas of V * For each row U[i] of U, clear denominators and append the monzos of the comma basis for V * Saturate the result to a list of monzos, call that S * Apply the ith val V[i] (dot product) to each element of S * Insert V[i].S[j] in front of the elements of S[j] as the first element, obtaining a modified list T * Hermite reduce the modified list T, take the first row, and remove the first element (which should be a 1.) * Consider the rest to be a monzo, which may be converted to a rational number if you prefer * This is the corresponding transveral generator to the ith val V[i] of V; it may be reduced to an equivalent generator of minimal Tenney height by multiplying by the commas of V
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<html><head><title>Transversal generators</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:6:<img id="wikitext@@toc@@flat" class="WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat" title="Table of Contents" src="/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&h=16"/> --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:6 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:7: --><a href="#Definition">Definition</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:7 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:8: --> | <a href="#Examples">Examples</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:8 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:9: --> | <a href="#Finding the transversal generators">Finding the transversal generators</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:9 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:10: --> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:10 --><br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h1> --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Definition"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Definition</h1> Given a reduced list of <a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20limit">p-limit</a> vals V, we may define a set of <em>transversal generators</em> for V as a set of p-limit intervals q such that one of the vals of V maps q to 1 and the rest map it to 0. By <em>reduced</em> is meant that the gcd of the elements of each of the vals is 1--or in other words, none of the vals are contorted--and that they are linearly independent, so that if there are r vals, the rank of V as a matrix is r.<br /> <br /> If v1, v2, ... vr are the vals of V and t1, t2, ... tr are the corresponding transversal generators, then for any p-limit q we have<br /> <br /> q = t1^v1(q) * t2^v2(q) * ... * tr^vr(q)<br /> <br /> In this way the transversal generators provide a <a class="wiki_link" href="/transversal">transversal</a> of the p-limit, and hence the name.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h1> --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="Examples"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Examples</h1> Suppose V consists of the 7-limit patent vals for 12 and 19; that is, V = [<12 19 28 34|, <19 30 44 53|]. Then a corresponding list of transversal generators is [49/48, 36/35]. 49/48 corresponds to one step of 12et, and zero steps of 19et, whereas 36/35 is zero steps of 12et, and one step of 19et. This gives us a septimal meantone transversal of the 7-limit where 3/2 is represented by (49/48)^7 * (36/35)^11, and 2 is represented by (49/48)^12 * (36/35)^19. A more familiar septimal meantone transversal starts from the normal val list, [<1 0 -4 -13|, <0 1 4 10|], which corresponds to the transversal generators [2, 3].<br /> <br /> Given a list of transversal generators, we may append a comma basis for V and obtain a basis for the entire p-limit. For instance, we may extend [49/48, 36/35] to [49/48, 36/35, 81/80, 126/125]. Taking the corresponding matrix of monzos, whose rows are monzos for this list, inverting it and then transposing, we obtain<br /> <br /> [<12 19 28 34|, <19 30 44 53|, <-4 -6 -9 -11|, <-5 -8 -12 -14|]<br /> <br /> This is a <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimodular_matrix" rel="nofollow">unimodular matrix</a> defining a change of basis for the p-limit.<br /> <br /> For another example, consider [<1 1 1 2|, <0 2 1 1|, <0 0 2 1|] which is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal val list</a> for breed temperament, the temperament tempering out 2401/2400. A corresponding list of transversal generators is [2, 49/40, 10/7].<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h1> --><h1 id="toc2"><a name="Finding the transversal generators"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Finding the transversal generators</h1> We can find transveral generators for V by the following procedure:<br /> <br /> <ul><li>Take the transpose of the pseudoinverse of V, call that U</li><li>Find a basis for the commas of V</li><li>For each row U[i] of U, clear denominators and append the monzos of the comma basis for V</li><li>Saturate the result to a list of monzos, call that S</li><li>Apply the ith val V[i] (dot product) to each element of S</li><li>Insert V[i].S[j] in front of the elements of S[j] as the first element, obtaining a modified list T</li><li>Hermite reduce the modified list T, take the first row, and remove the first element (which should be a 1.)</li><li>Consider the rest to be a monzo, which may be converted to a rational number if you prefer</li><li>This is the corresponding transveral generator to the ith val V[i] of V; it may be reduced to an equivalent generator of minimal Tenney height by multiplying by the commas of V</li></ul></body></html>