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=Orson=  
=Orson=  
The 5-limit parent comma for the **semicomma family** is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. **Orson**, the [[5-limit]] temperament tempering it out, has a [[generator]] of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example [[53edo]] or [[84edo]]. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five [[cent]]s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.
The 5-limit parent comma for the **semicomma family** is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor sixths. **Orson**, the [[5-limit]] temperament tempering it out, has a [[generator]] of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example [[53edo]] or [[84edo]]. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five [[cent]]s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.


Comma: 2109375/2097152
Comma: 2109375/2097152
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valid range: [270.968, 271.698] (31 to 53)
valid range: [270.968, 271.698] (31 to 53)
nice range: [266.871, 275.659]
nice range: [266.871, 275.659]
strict range: [270.968, 271.698]  
strict range: [270.968, 271.698]


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~7/6 = 271.546
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~7/6 = 271.546
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valid range: [135.484, 136.364] (62 to 44)
valid range: [135.484, 136.364] (62 to 44)
nice range: [128.298, 138.573]
nice range: [128.298, 138.573]
strict range: [135.484, 136.364]
strict range: [135.484, 136.364]


POTE tuning: ~13/12 = 135.723
POTE tuning: ~13/12 = 135.723
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  The 5-limit parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;semicomma family&lt;/strong&gt; is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&amp;gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. &lt;strong&gt;Orson&lt;/strong&gt;, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; temperament tempering it out, has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
  The 5-limit parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;semicomma family&lt;/strong&gt; is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&amp;gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor sixths. &lt;strong&gt;Orson&lt;/strong&gt;, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; temperament tempering it out, has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comma: 2109375/2097152&lt;br /&gt;
Comma: 2109375/2097152&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [270.968, 271.698] (31 to 53)&lt;br /&gt;
valid range: [270.968, 271.698] (31 to 53)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [266.871, 275.659]&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [266.871, 275.659]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [270.968, 271.698] &lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [270.968, 271.698]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~7/6 = 271.546&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~7/6 = 271.546&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [135.484, 136.364] (62 to 44)&lt;br /&gt;
valid range: [135.484, 136.364] (62 to 44)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [128.298, 138.573]&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [128.298, 138.573]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [135.484, 136.364]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [135.484, 136.364]&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE tuning: ~13/12 = 135.723&lt;br /&gt;
POTE tuning: ~13/12 = 135.723&lt;br /&gt;