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* a sustained pitch
* a sustained pitch
** redundancy in time
** redundancy in time
* a [[scale]] (set of definite pitches)
* a [[periodic scale|scale]] (set of definite pitches)
** redundancy in time: "I've heard these pitches before"
** redundancy in time: "I've heard these pitches before"
** less redundant: a scale which changes (for instance, ascending different from descending)
** less redundant: a scale which changes (for instance, ascending different from descending)
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Here is a far from complete list of aspects of tunings systems that might indicate redundancy of some kind. Please add to it!&lt;br /&gt;
Here is a far from complete list of aspects of tunings systems that might indicate redundancy of some kind. Please add to it!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the use of definite pitches&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;instead of, or in addition to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/noise"&gt;noise&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a sustained pitch&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;redundancy in time&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/scale"&gt;scale&lt;/a&gt; (set of definite pitches)&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;redundancy in time: &amp;quot;I've heard these pitches before&amp;quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant: a scale which changes (for instance, ascending different from descending)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmony"&gt;harmony&lt;/a&gt; influenced by a theory of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/consonance"&gt;consonance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;more than one pitch sounding together &amp;amp; their distinctness blurring&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;if pitch y appears in the overtone series of pitch x, when pitch x is sounding (on a harmonic instrument), pitch y will also sound (although might not be identifiable as a distinct pitch) - so building a scale which contains both x &amp;amp; y is redundant&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave%20equivalence"&gt;octave equivalence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;B-flat considered equivalent to B-flat an octave higher...&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave-repeating"&gt;octave-repeating&lt;/a&gt; scale&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the &amp;quot;same&amp;quot; pitches are available in each octave&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/equal"&gt;equal&lt;/a&gt; divisions of some interval&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/quasi-equal"&gt;quasi-equal&lt;/a&gt; divisions&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;tuning lattices&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;two-dimensional&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;three-dimensional&amp;quot;, etc. where each axis represents iterations of a single interval&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20limit"&gt;harmonic limit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;building scales from/with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tetrachord"&gt;tetrachords&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;more redundant: the same tetrachord repeated in the gamut&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant: two (or more) different tetrachords in the gamut&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;moment of symmetry&lt;/a&gt; technique (making a chain of one 'generator' interval, folded within a set 'period' interval)&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;produces scales with only two step sizes &amp;amp; only two intervals of each class&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant extensions: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOS%20Cradle"&gt;MOS Cradle&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Second%20Order%20MOS"&gt;Second Order MOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;matching tuning to timbre&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;eg. rational intonation - selecting pitches which are copied in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/OverToneSeries"&gt;overtone series&lt;/a&gt; of other intervals&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;eg. Indonesian gamelan tuning - the scale is made to match the inharmonic pitches of the metals used in building the instruments&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;octaves in the high range of a piano are routinely stretched to fit with the &amp;quot;distorted&amp;quot; sound of the high-tension strings&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;matching timbre to tuning&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the reverse of the above: making a timbre (usually with a computer) to &amp;quot;match&amp;quot; a stipulated tuning&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the use of definite pitches&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;instead of, or in addition to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/noise"&gt;noise&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a sustained pitch&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;redundancy in time&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/periodic%20scale"&gt;scale&lt;/a&gt; (set of definite pitches)&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;redundancy in time: &amp;quot;I've heard these pitches before&amp;quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant: a scale which changes (for instance, ascending different from descending)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmony"&gt;harmony&lt;/a&gt; influenced by a theory of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/consonance"&gt;consonance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;more than one pitch sounding together &amp;amp; their distinctness blurring&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;if pitch y appears in the overtone series of pitch x, when pitch x is sounding (on a harmonic instrument), pitch y will also sound (although might not be identifiable as a distinct pitch) - so building a scale which contains both x &amp;amp; y is redundant&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave%20equivalence"&gt;octave equivalence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;B-flat considered equivalent to B-flat an octave higher...&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave-repeating"&gt;octave-repeating&lt;/a&gt; scale&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the &amp;quot;same&amp;quot; pitches are available in each octave&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/equal"&gt;equal&lt;/a&gt; divisions of some interval&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/quasi-equal"&gt;quasi-equal&lt;/a&gt; divisions&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;tuning lattices&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;two-dimensional&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;three-dimensional&amp;quot;, etc. where each axis represents iterations of a single interval&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20limit"&gt;harmonic limit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;building scales from/with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tetrachord"&gt;tetrachords&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;more redundant: the same tetrachord repeated in the gamut&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant: two (or more) different tetrachords in the gamut&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;moment of symmetry&lt;/a&gt; technique (making a chain of one 'generator' interval, folded within a set 'period' interval)&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;produces scales with only two step sizes &amp;amp; only two intervals of each class&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;less redundant extensions: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOS%20Cradle"&gt;MOS Cradle&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Second%20Order%20MOS"&gt;Second Order MOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;matching tuning to timbre&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;eg. rational intonation - selecting pitches which are copied in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/OverToneSeries"&gt;overtone series&lt;/a&gt; of other intervals&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;eg. Indonesian gamelan tuning - the scale is made to match the inharmonic pitches of the metals used in building the instruments&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;octaves in the high range of a piano are routinely stretched to fit with the &amp;quot;distorted&amp;quot; sound of the high-tension strings&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;matching timbre to tuning&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the reverse of the above: making a timbre (usually with a computer) to &amp;quot;match&amp;quot; a stipulated tuning&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>