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Whether a number n is prime or not has important consequences for the properties of the corresponding n-[[edo|EDO]], especially for lower values of n.
A //prime number// is an integer (whole number) greater than one which is divisible only by itself and one. There an an infinite number of prime numbers, the first few of which are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13 ... . Whether a number n is prime or not has important consequences for the properties of the corresponding n-[[edo|EDO]], especially for lower values of n.
* If the octave is divided into a prime number of equal parts, there is **no fully symmetric chord**, such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]].
* If the octave is divided into a prime number of equal parts, there is **no fully symmetric chord**, such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]].
* There is also (besides the full scale of all notes of the edo) **no absolutely uniform scale**, like the wholetone scale in 12edo.
* There is also (besides the full scale of all notes of the edo) **no absolutely uniform scale**, like the wholetone scale in 12edo.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;prime numbers&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc0"&gt;&lt;a name="Prime numbers in EDOs"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --&gt;Prime numbers in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;s&lt;/h1&gt;
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Whether a number n is prime or not has important consequences for the properties of the corresponding n-&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/edo"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;, especially for lower values of n.&lt;br /&gt;
A &lt;em&gt;prime number&lt;/em&gt; is an integer (whole number) greater than one which is divisible only by itself and one. There an an infinite number of prime numbers, the first few of which are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13 ... . Whether a number n is prime or not has important consequences for the properties of the corresponding n-&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/edo"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;, especially for lower values of n.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;If the octave is divided into a prime number of equal parts, there is &lt;strong&gt;no fully symmetric chord&lt;/strong&gt;, such as the diminished seventh chord in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;There is also (besides the full scale of all notes of the edo) &lt;strong&gt;no absolutely uniform scale&lt;/strong&gt;, like the wholetone scale in 12edo.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nor is there a thing like &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition" rel="nofollow"&gt;modes of limited transpostion&lt;/a&gt;, as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;N-EDO does not support any rank two temperament with period a fraction of an octave; all such temperaments are &lt;em&gt;linear&lt;/em&gt; temperaments.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;If the octave is divided into a prime number of equal parts, there is &lt;strong&gt;no fully symmetric chord&lt;/strong&gt;, such as the diminished seventh chord in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;There is also (besides the full scale of all notes of the edo) &lt;strong&gt;no absolutely uniform scale&lt;/strong&gt;, like the wholetone scale in 12edo.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nor is there a thing like &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition" rel="nofollow"&gt;modes of limited transpostion&lt;/a&gt;, as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;N-EDO does not support any rank two temperament with period a fraction of an octave; all such temperaments are &lt;em&gt;linear&lt;/em&gt; temperaments.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
For these or similar reasons, some musicians seem not to like prime EDOs (e.g. the makers of &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.armodue.com/risorse.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Armodue&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
For these or similar reasons, some musicians seem not to like prime EDOs (e.g. the makers of &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.armodue.com/risorse.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Armodue&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;

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=Prime numbers in [[EDO]]s= 

A //prime number// is an integer (whole number) greater than one which is divisible only by itself and one. There an an infinite number of prime numbers, the first few of which are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13 ... . Whether a number n is prime or not has important consequences for the properties of the corresponding n-[[edo|EDO]], especially for lower values of n.
* If the octave is divided into a prime number of equal parts, there is **no fully symmetric chord**, such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]].
* There is also (besides the full scale of all notes of the edo) **no absolutely uniform scale**, like the wholetone scale in 12edo.
* Nor is there a thing like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition|modes of limited transpostion]], as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.
* N-EDO does not support any rank two temperament with period a fraction of an octave; all such temperaments are //linear// temperaments.

For these or similar reasons, some musicians seem not to like prime EDOs (e.g. the makers of [[http://www.armodue.com/risorse.htm|Armodue]]).

On the other hand, primality may be a desirable feature if you happen to want, e.g., a wholetone scale that is //not// absolutely uniform. (In this case you might like [[19edo]], for example.)

The larger the number n is, the less these points matter, since the difference between an **absolutely** uniform scale and an approximated, **nearly** uniform scale eventually become inaudible.


todo: add more useful things about prime numbers for musicians, composers, microtonalists, xenharmonicians, theorists here. XXX

==The first "Prime EDOs"== 
Multiples of an EDO can inherit properties from the EDO, in particular a tuning for certain intervals. The multiple, on the other hand, is necessarily more complex.

[[2edo|2]], [[3edo|3]], [[5edo|5]], [[7edo|7]], [[11edo|11]], [[13edo|13]], [[17edo|17]],
[[19edo|19]], [[23edo|23]], [[29edo|29]], [[31edo|31]], [[37edo|37]], [[41edo|41]], [[43edo|43]],
[[47edo|47]], [[53edo|53]], [[59edo|59]], [[61edo|61]], [[67edo|67]], [[71edo|71]], [[73edo|73]],
[[79edo|79]], [[83edo|83]], [[89edo|89]], [[97edo|97]], [[101edo|101]], [[103edo|103]], [[107edo|107]],
[[109edo|109]], [[113edo|113]], [[127edo|127]], [[131edo|131]], [[137edo|137]], [[139edo|139]], [[149edo|149]],
[[151edo|151]], [[157edo|157]], [[163edo|163]], [[167edo|167]], [[173edo|173]], [[179edo|179]], [[181edo|181]],
[[191edo|191]], [[193edo|193]], [[197edo|197]], [[199edo|199]]

==See also== 
* [[The Prime Harmonic Series]]
* [[Monzo]] - an alternative notation for interval ratios
* [[prime limit]] or [[Harmonic Limit]]

==Links== 
* [[http://www.arndt-bruenner.de/mathe/scripts/primzahlen.htm|Die Primzahlseite]] (German) by Arndt Brünner (helpful tools for prime factorization and ~test)
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number|Prime number]] the Wikipedia article

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<html><head><title>prime numbers</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Prime numbers in EDOs"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Prime numbers in <a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO">EDO</a>s</h1>
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A <em>prime number</em> is an integer (whole number) greater than one which is divisible only by itself and one. There an an infinite number of prime numbers, the first few of which are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13 ... . Whether a number n is prime or not has important consequences for the properties of the corresponding n-<a class="wiki_link" href="/edo">EDO</a>, especially for lower values of n.<br />
<ul><li>If the octave is divided into a prime number of equal parts, there is <strong>no fully symmetric chord</strong>, such as the diminished seventh chord in <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a>.</li><li>There is also (besides the full scale of all notes of the edo) <strong>no absolutely uniform scale</strong>, like the wholetone scale in 12edo.</li><li>Nor is there a thing like <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition" rel="nofollow">modes of limited transpostion</a>, as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.</li><li>N-EDO does not support any rank two temperament with period a fraction of an octave; all such temperaments are <em>linear</em> temperaments.</li></ul><br />
For these or similar reasons, some musicians seem not to like prime EDOs (e.g. the makers of <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.armodue.com/risorse.htm" rel="nofollow">Armodue</a>).<br />
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On the other hand, primality may be a desirable feature if you happen to want, e.g., a wholetone scale that is <em>not</em> absolutely uniform. (In this case you might like <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a>, for example.)<br />
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The larger the number n is, the less these points matter, since the difference between an <strong>absolutely</strong> uniform scale and an approximated, <strong>nearly</strong> uniform scale eventually become inaudible.<br />
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todo: add more useful things about prime numbers for musicians, composers, microtonalists, xenharmonicians, theorists here. XXX<br />
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 Multiples of an EDO can inherit properties from the EDO, in particular a tuning for certain intervals. The multiple, on the other hand, is necessarily more complex.<br />
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/2edo">2</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/3edo">3</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/5edo">5</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo">7</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/11edo">11</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/13edo">13</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo">17</a>,<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/23edo">23</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo">29</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo">37</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/41edo">41</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/43edo">43</a>,<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/47edo">47</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo">53</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/59edo">59</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/61edo">61</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/67edo">67</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/71edo">71</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/73edo">73</a>,<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/79edo">79</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/83edo">83</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/89edo">89</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/97edo">97</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/101edo">101</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/103edo">103</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/107edo">107</a>,<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/109edo">109</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/113edo">113</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/127edo">127</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/131edo">131</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/137edo">137</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/139edo">139</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/149edo">149</a>,<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/151edo">151</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/157edo">157</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/163edo">163</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/167edo">167</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/173edo">173</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/179edo">179</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/181edo">181</a>,<br />
<a class="wiki_link" href="/191edo">191</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/193edo">193</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/197edo">197</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/199edo">199</a><br />
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 <ul><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Prime%20Harmonic%20Series">The Prime Harmonic Series</a></li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzo">Monzo</a> - an alternative notation for interval ratios</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/prime%20limit">prime limit</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit">Harmonic Limit</a></li></ul><br />
<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc3"><a name="Prime numbers in EDOs-Links"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->Links</h2>
 <ul><li><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.arndt-bruenner.de/mathe/scripts/primzahlen.htm" rel="nofollow">Die Primzahlseite</a> (German) by Arndt Brünner (helpful tools for prime factorization and ~test)</li><li><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number" rel="nofollow">Prime number</a> the Wikipedia article</li></ul></body></html>