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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Porcupine family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule: | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Porcupine family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:19:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:20: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:20 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:21: --> | <a href="#Porcupine">Porcupine</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:21 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:22 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:23: --> | <a href="#Hystrix">Hystrix</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:23 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:24: --> | <a href="#Nautilus">Nautilus</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:24 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:25: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:25 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:26: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:26 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:27: --> | <a href="#Porky">Porky</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:27 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:28: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:28 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:29: --> | ||
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The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal <a class="wiki_link" href="/diesis">diesis</a> or porcupine comma. Its <a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo">monzo</a> is |1 -5 3&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;3 5 1|| for the <a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie">wedgie</a>. This tells us the <a class="wiki_link" href="/generator">generator</a> is a minor whole tone, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9">10/9</a> interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.<br /> | The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal <a class="wiki_link" href="/diesis">diesis</a> or porcupine comma. Its <a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo">monzo</a> is |1 -5 3&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;3 5 1|| for the <a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie">wedgie</a>. This tells us the <a class="wiki_link" href="/generator">generator</a> is a minor whole tone, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9">10/9</a> interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.<br /> | ||
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EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/161edo">161</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/183edo">183</a><br /> | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/161edo">161</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/183edo">183</a><br /> | ||
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The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which <a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit">7-limit</a> family member we are looking at. That means <a class="wiki_link" href="/64_63">64/63</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Archyta%27s%20comma">Archyta's comma</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Porcupine">porcupine</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/36_35">36/35</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/septimal%20quarter%20tone">septimal quarter tone</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Hystrix">hystrix</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/50_49">50/49</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/jubilisma">jubilisma</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Hedgehog">hedgehog</a>, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/49_48">49/48</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/slendro%20diesis">slendro diesis</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Nautilus">nautilus</a>.<br /> | The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which <a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit">7-limit</a> family member we are looking at. That means <a class="wiki_link" href="/64_63">64/63</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Archyta%27s%20comma">Archyta's comma</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Porcupine">porcupine</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/36_35">36/35</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/septimal%20quarter%20tone">septimal quarter tone</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Hystrix">hystrix</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/50_49">50/49</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/jubilisma">jubilisma</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Hedgehog">hedgehog</a>, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/49_48">49/48</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/slendro%20diesis">slendro diesis</a>, for <a class="wiki_link" href="/Porcupine%20family#Nautilus">nautilus</a>.<br /> | ||
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Porcupine, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 -6 1 -18 -28||, uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to <a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4">7/4</a>. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> provides, and once again 3\22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8\59, 11\81, or 19\140 for our generator.<br /> | Porcupine, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 -6 1 -18 -28||, uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to <a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4">7/4</a>. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> provides, and once again 3\22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8\59, 11\81, or 19\140 for our generator.<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 22, <a class="wiki_link" href="/59edo">59</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/81edo">81</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo">140</a><br /> | EDOs: 22, <a class="wiki_link" href="/59edo">59</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/81edo">81</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo">140</a><br /> | ||
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Commas: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99<br /> | Commas: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0217<br /> | Badness: 0.0217<br /> | ||
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Hystrix, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 1 1 -7 -12||, provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix, for which a generator of 2\15 or 9\68 can be used, is a temperament for the adventurous souls who have probably already tried <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15edo</a>. They can try the even sharper fifth of hystrix in <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68edo</a> and see how that suits.<br /> | Hystrix, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 5 1 1 -7 -12||, provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix, for which a generator of 2\15 or 9\68 can be used, is a temperament for the adventurous souls who have probably already tried <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15edo</a>. They can try the even sharper fifth of hystrix in <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68edo</a> and see how that suits.<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 15, 68<br /> | EDOs: 15, 68<br /> | ||
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Commas: 49/48, 250/243<br /> | Commas: 49/48, 250/243<br /> | ||
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EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/14edo">14</a>, 15, <a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo">29</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/44edo">44</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/73edo">73</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/160edo">160</a><br /> | EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="/14edo">14</a>, 15, <a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo">29</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/44edo">44</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/73edo">73</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/160edo">160</a><br /> | ||
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Commas: 49/48, 55/54, 245/242<br /> | Commas: 49/48, 55/54, 245/242<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 14, 15, 29, 44, 73, 160<br /> | EDOs: 14, 15, 29, 44, 73, 160<br /> | ||
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Commas: 49/48, 55/54, 91/90, 100/99<br /> | Commas: 49/48, 55/54, 91/90, 100/99<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 14, 15, 29, 44, 73, 160<br /> | EDOs: 14, 15, 29, 44, 73, 160<br /> | ||
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Commas: 225/224, 250/243<br /> | Commas: 225/224, 250/243<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0544<br /> | Badness: 0.0544<br /> | ||
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Commas: 55/54, 100/99, 225/224<br /> | Commas: 55/54, 100/99, 225/224<br /> | ||
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